Topic: Get your facts straight? (Read 1685107 times)

Novabonker · « **Reply #2880 on:** February 04, 2018, 10:00:50 PM »

Quote from: wildmanyeah on February 04, 2018, 09:36:28 AM

Are we really celebrating another Canadian company getting kicked out of the USA.

This will just put Canada further behind in developing better sustainable aquaculture and technology.

Just take a minute and look at Cooke's operations.If they represent Canadian values, then I'm from the moon.

Fisherbob · « **Reply #2881 on:** February 05, 2018, 08:18:44 AM »

Quote from: Novabonker on February 04, 2018, 10:00:50 PM

Just take a minute and look at Cooke's operations.If they represent Canadian values, then I'm from the moon.

What damage did Cooke do besides to its own equipment? Then think about the values of wild catch.
http://www.livingoceans.org/sites/default/files/bycatch_BC_Bottom_Trawl_Fishery_0.pdf

wildmanyeah · « **Reply #2882 on:** February 05, 2018, 11:15:35 AM »

Quote from: Novabonker on February 04, 2018, 10:00:50 PM

Just take a minute and look at Cooke's operations.If they represent Canadian values, then I'm from the moon.

Let me know when they start banning US aquaculture operations. Wonder what will happen to the prices for the US players now that their booting out Cooke.

Also did Cooke not apply for permits before the release event so they could upgrade the pens and the USA government was sitting on them waiting to approve.

I think the tides have turned its only a matter of time now before we see more and more fish farms leave our coast but if you think that going to help wild fish your mistaken. All one has to look at is the yellow eye and Halibut Quota to release that we will fish them to extinction anyways. There is never enough fish

Novabonker · « **Reply #2883 on:** February 05, 2018, 07:24:29 PM »

Quote from: Fisherbob on February 05, 2018, 08:18:44 AM

What damage did Cooke do besides to its own equipment? Then think about the values of wild catch.
http://www.livingoceans.org/sites/default/files/bycatch_BC_Bottom_Trawl_Fishery_0.pdf

Let's start with releasing a foreign species to Washington waters. That's an undeniable faux pas.That many frankenfish alone competing for feed would have an impact.

This happened in area where my family lives.Another blooper.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/business/112300-cooke-aquaculture-slow-to-report-barge-sinking

Not to mention the area used to have an active lobster fishery- that's gone now. I wonder if there's any relation to this....

https://bangordailynews.com/2013/04/27/business/cooke-aquaculture-to-pay-490k-after-illegal-pesticides-kill-lobsters-in-canada/

and some more

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/local/article189614154.html

there's a lot more, but you can do your own digging.

BTW - Cooke pays a total of 12.80 per hour to employees. For what it's worth, the operation plant in Blandford relies on temporary foreign workers because nobody else would be able to survive on that chump change. They rely on Russian and Filipino folks. How do I know this? Because that particular pland was started by my Great Uncle and Grandfather and run for a long time by my cousins. They paid the plant workers a living wage and treated them fairly.

Fisherbob · « **Reply #2884 on:** February 05, 2018, 07:36:16 PM »

Quote from: Novabonker on February 05, 2018, 07:24:29 PM

Let's start with releasing a foreign species to Washington waters. That's an undeniable faux pas.That many frankenfish alone competing for feed would have an impact

FYI just for starters.

https://www.cermaq.com/wps/wcm/connect/7a850996-d21c-48c5-bb84-9e2049bdc680/History+of+Atlantic+Salmon+Introductions+in+the+Pacific.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CONVERT_TO=url

Novabonker · « **Reply #2885 on:** February 05, 2018, 09:11:19 PM »

Quote from: Fisherbob on February 05, 2018, 07:36:16 PM

FYI just for starters.
https://www.cermaq.com/wps/wcm/connect/7a850996-d21c-48c5-bb84-9e2049bdc680/History+of+Atlantic+Salmon+Introductions+in+the+Pacific.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CONVERT_TO=url

That many frankenfish alone competing for feed would have an impact.

Fisherbob · « **Reply #2886 on:** February 06, 2018, 07:29:19 AM »

Quote from: Novabonker on February 05, 2018, 09:11:19 PM

That many frankenfish alone competing for feed would have an impact.

Not so much me thinks

“A few fish had things like wood chips or mussel shells in their stomachs, but the vast majority had empty stomachs,” Michele Dunlop with the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife said in an email.”
https://www.opb.org/news/article/atlantic-salmon-swim-far-and-wide-after-puget-sound-fish-farm-collapse/

Fisherbob · « **Reply #2887 on:** February 06, 2018, 09:39:56 AM »

“But history has shown that Atlantic salmon don’t feed well in the Pacific and have never established spawning populations outside their natural range despite transplant programs around the world.

“There are Pacific salmon in Lake Ontario, which is home for Atlantic salmon and guess who is winning? The Pacific species,” said Tony Farrell, a professor in the Faculty of Land and Food Systems at the University of B.C. ”
http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/millions-of-atlantic-salmon-introduced-to-b-c-streams-since-1905