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Dave

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3045 on: April 27, 2018, 03:54:14 PM »

I have a hunch there is more to this story.  A year seems a long time to have no biological source scarfing up all those nutrients.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3048 on: May 05, 2018, 06:55:30 PM »

Social media has won

Good job Chris
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3051 on: May 07, 2018, 04:47:33 PM »

https://seawestnews.com/salmon-virus-study-is-about-activism-not-science-experts/
Thanks, I know Dave had  said a while ago that he had a lot of respect for Dr. Riddell and would be supporter of the finding he found.

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3053 on: May 08, 2018, 06:55:31 PM »

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3056 on: May 09, 2018, 10:42:41 AM »

Thanks, I know Dave had  said a while ago that he had a lot of respect for Dr. Riddell and would be supporter of the finding he found.
Yes I do respect what Riddell says and so far he has not said what you want to hear.  To many " mays, perhaps, it appears", etc.  When he says it "does" I will listen.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3057 on: May 09, 2018, 12:19:23 PM »

Yes I do respect what Riddell says and so far he has not said what you want to hear.  To many " mays, perhaps, it appears", etc.  When he says it "does" I will listen.

He has almost squealed it out. Still I find the inconclusiveness in the report extremely frustrating.  I think this more of salmon stocks are doing bad so fish farms have to give up their piece of the pie if everyone else does.

Good take on the PSF study,

http://www.fis.com/fis/worldnews/wo...=8&id=97194&l=e&country=0&special=&ndb=1&df=0'

“Our study used novel molecular tools to show that PRV-1 was intimately involved in the development of jaundice/anemia in chinook salmon,” said Dr. Kristi Miller-Saunders, Fisheries and Oceans Canada and lead scientist in the SSHI.

“The study also reveals a difference in PRV-1 sensitivity between species that could easily explain why the virus causes inflammation in Atlantic salmon and cell death in chinook salmon,” Riddell stressed.

In Riddell’s view, the study goes far enough to encourage regulators to act on protecting wild salmon.

“It’s extremely difficult to measure mortality rate in wild salmon,” he said. “The idea that we have to demonstrate everything to the last degree in wild salmon is not going to get us to a solution.”

And then their is this release by the PSF

“This transition to closed containment will take time but the removal of open net-pen farms along migratory routes of wild Pacific salmon, particularly for those stocks of greatest concern, should occur as soon as possible. During this transition, everything possible should be done to improve the assessment of the risks to wild Pacific salmon, including through the work of the Strategic Salmon Health Initiative that is being done in partnership with PSF, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada, and Genome BC. “
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3058 on: May 09, 2018, 12:21:22 PM »

PACIFIC SALMON FOUNDATION POSITION ON AQUACULTURE IN BC

News Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
May 9th, 2018

The Pacific Salmon Foundation Board of Directors today released the following position on aquaculture in British Columbia:

The Pacific Salmon Foundation (PSF) believes that British Columbia and Canada must put wild Pacific salmon first and that a move to closed-containment salmon aquaculture is recommended.  We are taking this position now based on the combination of the information in the recent report of the Ministerial Advisory Committee on Finfish Aquaculture; the results of our own research to date; and the chronically-low abundance of most wild Pacific salmon populations today.

This transition to closed containment will take time but the removal of open net-pen farms along migratory routes of wild Pacific salmon, particularly for those stocks of greatest concern, should occur as soon as possible.  During this transition, everything possible should be done to improve the assessment of the risks to wild Pacific salmon, including through the work of the Strategic Salmon Health Initiative that is being done in partnership with PSF, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada, and Genome BC.

PSF supports the report of the Ministerial Advisory Committee on Finfish Aquaculture and is prepared to assist the provincial and federal government in the move to closed-containment aquaculture and restoration of wild Pacific salmon.

 

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BACKGROUNDER ON CHANGES TO OPEN NET-PEN AQUACULTURE
 
The Pacific Salmon Foundation (PSF) is calling for a move to closed-containment salmon aquaculture as the best way to protect wild Pacific salmon.
This position – approved by the PSF Board of Directors – is based on the potential impacts from open net-pen salmon farms on wild Pacific Salmon.
For more than 30 years, PSF has followed the development of “sustainable aquaculture” in B.C.’s coastal waters.  While changes have been implemented by the industry, concerns about interactions with wild Pacific salmon continue to grow and we see no resolution to them in the short term. PSF has come to its decision for a number of reasons, including:
​the information in the recent report of the Ministerial Advisory Committee on Finfish Aquaculture;
the results of scientific research to date from the Strategic Salmon Health Initiative it currently has underway with DFO and Genome BC;
​and the critical situation with respect to many wild Pacific salmon populations in southern BC, including Fraser River Sockeye and many Chinook, Coho and Steelhead.
Because of all of this, PSF believes that open net-pen salmon aquaculture in B.C.’s marine waters poses biological risks to the abundance and diversity of already depleted wild Pacific salmon.
The approach of waiting for scientific certainty is unrealistic because the potential risks have continually been placed on our wild Pacific salmon. PSF is therefore calling on British Columbia and Canada to put wild Pacific salmon first with respect to the management of these risks. Pacific salmon are invaluable to our province, ecosystems and people.
PSF recognizes that a full transition to land-based aquaculture will take time, so it is advocating that some actions need to be taken now to minimize risks. 
The first priority should be moving – as soon as possible – the open net-pen farms located along the major migratory routes of wild Pacific salmon, particularly the Fraser River sockeye, as those stocks are of great public concern, have the strongest annual assessment programs to monitor change, and are known to be exposed to farms in Johnstone Strait and Queen Charlotte Sound.
PSF remains willing to assist the provincial and federal government in advancing the move to closed-containment aquaculture, and more so, in restoring wild Pacific salmon populations.
 
Contact:
Stephen Bruyneel, Pacific Salmon Foundation, 604 842 1971
 
About the Pacific Salmon Foundation:
The Pacific Salmon Foundation was created in 1987 as an independent, non-governmental, charitable organization to protect, conserve and rebuild Pacific Salmon populations in British Columbia and the Yukon. The Foundation’s mission is to be the trusted voice for conservation and restoration of wild Pacific salmon and their ecosystems and works to bring salmon back stream by stream through the strategic use of resources and local communities. www.psf.ca
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #3059 on: May 09, 2018, 01:27:53 PM »

The PSF has enough clout to actually force changes in fish farming, and along with the anti FN groups, I think this will play into Horgan's decision to not renew a few contentious farm licences.
Interesting times ahead for the salmon farming industry in BC.  Any bets a few get involved in chinook recovery programs?
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