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[Macers]

Just wanted to ensure I was correct. Yep, people are dicks here.

Curious though, since natures awesome, shouldn't it deal with invasive species better? Obvious example would be Gardom Lake, pirch got in, destroyed the lake. 3 times now it had to be killed.

GG nature.

Ex. #2, over population of seals and dwindling salmon. Awesome.

[big_fish]

Contrary to what you may believe, catching these juvenile fish has a much bigger negative impact on them than their natural predators like pikeminnow. Leaving them alone is better than poking them and releasing them. The hook gap is often too big and the fish end up with internal head injuries.

Pikeminnow, or squawfish as u call them, are native fish that have coexisted with salmon and trout forever. They've done ok until human came along.

[ByteMe]

Contrary to what you may believe, catching these juvenile fish has a much bigger negative impact on them than their natural predators like pikeminnow. Leaving them alone is better than poking them and releasing them. The hook gap is often too big and the fish end up with internal head injuries.

Pikeminnow, or squawfish as u call them, are native fish that have coexisted with salmon and trout forever. They've done ok until human came along.

Absoltuely correct.,and Macers if you think those little fish will survive doing C&R,you are absolutely wrong.....shock,stress,high water temps,low oxygen content,think you just reduced the trout population,even though they might have swam away

[sbc hris]

Nature monitors fish populations on a supply and demand basis. Those squa fish that you needlessly killed will be replaced with new ones very shortly, and the population will remain the same. Another thing to remember is that salmonids and squa fish are both aggresive predators that eat each other. Its a fine balance that nature has created over thousands of years. How do you know that those squa fish you killed werent a big cutthroats dinner? Im getting sick of people talking about bonking a few squafish like its making a difference, or is ethical. If you really wanted to make a difference you'd better kill every one of them in the Fraser drainage.

[cutthroat22]

FYI you must release pikeminnows

From the freshwater Regs

It is unlawful to
Waste the fish you catch

If your fish is not suitable for eating or if
possession is illegal because of quotas,
size limits or closed seasons, return the
fish quickly and gently to the water.

[shi man oh man]

catching smolts is cool, Thanks for the report. The secret is out, the ditch has smolts and pikeminnows in it. Leave those poor little guys alone, and go smear the name of another small system all over the net. classless

[Sr SQ]

Just wanted to ensure I was correct. Yep, people are dicks here.

Yep you fit right in.............

[sbc hris]

Yep, were all big dicks, not the guy laying waste to native species and playing catch and release with juvenile salmon. 

BTW pike minnow arent invasive species. They've probably been around longer than the salmon. And as far as seals and salmon, it's the same natural balance. The seal population is high, and continues to grow, eventually there will be too many of them and they will begin to run out of food, the numbers will come back in check, and the salmon population will begin to rebound. Its the flow of nature. You think this is the first time in many thousands of years that the seal population has been on the rise? The biggest problem of all is man coming along and attempting to alter these things in his favour or correct them as he sees fit. Nature has an amazing way of taking care of itself, unfortunately it's just not fast enough for us impatient humans. If you wanna make a difference bonk the people on the head who are illegally transporting the foreign species, and throw them in the bush. 

[RalphH]

I would like to see the spring closure on the Alouette and other small streams in the Fraser Valley extended to August 31st. This would exclude the Vedder/Chilliwack and Chehalis where there are salmon etc in summer. I don't see the point in having them open in the summer when there is little that is catchable and juvenile trout and salmon are exposed to fishing pressure - particularly with bait which creates such a high mortality.

[bbronswyk2000]

I would like to see the spring closure on the Alouette and other small streams in the Fraser Valley extended to August 31st. This would exclude the Vedder/Chilliwack and Chehalis where there are salmon etc in summer. I don't see the point in having them open in the summer when there is little that is catchable and juvenile trout and salmon are exposed to fishing pressure - particularly with bait which creates such a high mortality.

Totally agree. Their are only a handful of people that actually nymph for feeding trout and whitefish in these systems.

[Sandman]

Just wanted to ensure I was correct. Yep, people are dicks here.

Curious though, since natures awesome, shouldn't it deal with invasive species better? Obvious example would be Gardom Lake, pirch got in, destroyed the lake. 3 times now it had to be killed.

GG nature.

Ex. #2, over population of seals and dwindling salmon. Awesome.

Both of your examples are human caused imbalances.  Nature IS awesome, however, it is very slow to adapt to changes (comparatively speaking of course since humans, the ultimate invasive species, have only been around for 0.04% of the history of the planet, so it only seems slow to us).  The perch you refer to did not "get in" to the lake, they were put there by someone.  An invasive species is a problem, because nature develops its system gradually over thousands of years.  When people interfere with the balance created by nature (introducing a new species to an ecosystem), nature cannot adapt as fast as the invasive species, which likely has no natural predators in that ecosystem.  Your seal reference is puzzling though, as the salmon population decline has nothing to do with the seals, which are likely also fewer in number than they were historically, as the salmon (an important food source for them) used to be much more numerous in the past.  Of course our impact on the Orca population (the seal's chief predator), probably isn't helping keep their numbers balanced.