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rheticus

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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2013, 11:02:31 PM »

Two of my four times at the Fraser since Aug. 31 I've outfished people around me by using a pink, 3" buzz bomb, simply casting followed by a steady, slow retrieve that lets me feel the slow wobble of the lure through the water. Don't ask me why they bite this primitive-looking lump! But they do. They go bump, bump, then bite.
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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2013, 06:00:33 AM »

Two of my four times at the Fraser since Aug. 31 I've outfished people around me by using a pink, 3" buzz bomb, simply casting followed by a steady, slow retrieve that lets me feel the slow wobble of the lure through the water. Don't ask me why they bite this primitive-looking lump! But they do. They go bump, bump, then bite.
The lure was designed to imitate a wounded herring in the salt chuck. One jigs the buzz bomb up, and when it flutters down, that's when the salmon will hit it. Deadly when theres a lot of bird action feeding on a herring ball that's been pushed up by marauding salmon.
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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2013, 12:38:04 PM »

Two of my four times at the Fraser since Aug. 31 I've outfished people around me by using a pink, 3" buzz bomb, simply casting followed by a steady, slow retrieve that lets me feel the slow wobble of the lure through the water. Don't ask me why they bite this primitive-looking lump! But they do. They go bump, bump, then bite.

As I mentioned - watch the bb when reeling it in - mimics bait fish swimming.  Watch it if you have an opportunity lifting it up and fluttering down, it mimics wounded baitfish.
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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2013, 01:28:30 PM »

Fishing from the shore on the Fraser on Sunday morning 3 guys next to me each caught a couple of pinks using buzz bombs. I netted one guys first fish because he didn't have a net and he gave me a spare bomb to use. I didn't have any success, but they certainly did. All caught legitimately too, no snagging.  I will definitely be trying again next weekend, gonna hunt down the single hook stoppers first though.
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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2013, 02:03:39 PM »

Fishing from the shore on the Fraser on Sunday morning 3 guys next to me each caught a couple of pinks using buzz bombs. I netted one guys first fish because he didn't have a net and he gave me a spare bomb to use. I didn't have any success, but they certainly did. All caught legitimately too, no snagging.  I will definitely be trying again next weekend, gonna hunt down the single hook stoppers first though.

A&N has them - the pkg of 15 is a couple bucks is all.
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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2013, 02:08:31 PM »

As people already mentioned, the Buzzbomb and the Striker jigs actually flutter more than they spin. They were and are meant to be fished vertically, and with slack to allow them to fall for 3 or 4 feet before being lifted again. However, they are popular with shore anglers because of their weight which allows them to be tossed a long way. But, it is still the same lift and drop retrieve that makes them effective. Years ago, before Buzzbombs, we just used pink painted spoons like the Hotshot and daredevil.

I have a good friend who designed and produced the Striker lures (jigs) and I have many of them that I've altered with a grinder to change their performance and make them spin better. I can't say that it increased their performance because they spun better. It has always been that way. Some individual lures just work better than others on any given day.
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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2013, 03:08:37 PM »

Believe it or not, in the late 90's, orange-coloured lead banana weights were all the rage for Fraser R pinks.

An orange piece of lead, and a hook, reeled through the water. That's it.
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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2013, 04:01:06 PM »

Fishing from the shore on the Fraser on Sunday morning 3 guys next to me each caught a couple of pinks using buzz bombs. I netted one guys first fish because he didn't have a net and he gave me a spare bomb to use. I didn't have any success, but they certainly did. All caught legitimately too, no snagging.  I will definitely be trying again next weekend, gonna hunt down the single hook stoppers first though.

That was me. It was the first Pink I caught this year  ;D and the first time on buzz bomb ::). I normally do not bring a net (it is in my car) when I fish for Pink. I love to fight and I take my time to wear them out then hand pick it up. My neighbor fishermen hate me doing it because it takes too long to land the fish so he net it for me ::). I recorded that day I said numerous times it is ok when you ask me if i need a net. Thank you anyway.

I hope you catch at least a fish next weekend and if it was on my buzz bomb, I will take 1/2 credit for it.  ;D

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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2013, 08:50:53 AM »

As people already mentioned, the Buzzbomb and the Striker jigs actually flutter more than they spin. They were and are meant to be fished vertically, and with slack to allow them to fall for 3 or 4 feet before being lifted again. However, they are popular with shore anglers because of their weight which allows them to be tossed a long way. But, it is still the same lift and drop retrieve that makes them effective.

I agree with Ian,

The problem I see with casting buzz bombs from shore is that if your {IMHO} fishing the buzz bomb correctly then you'll be looking like a snagger all day as you'd be pulling in hard and then reeling in the slack, this creates the proper effect the lure is supposed to portray. The Fraser is a shallow river for the most part so when guys are casting out their buzz bombs from shore they better be pulling and reeling pretty fast or it will be landing on the bottom continuously but while doing this you actually look like your snagging fish but all your doing is working the lure the way it was designed to be used.

I've caught loads of fish over my lifetime with a buzz bomb this way but waaaay more while fishing from a boat while mooching winter chinnook with my pops back in the 70's. Back then we used herring strip but when the dog fish got too bad we'd switch over to the buzz bomb {or move}. They basically will catch any fish in the ocean around here, salmon, ling cod, all rockfish, sole, dog fish, pollack, hake, etc etc, the list is endless really.

The two fellas I saw fishing their buzz bombs were not fishing them as an ethical angler would, they were casting it out, letting it hit bottom then reel reeeeeallly slow and wait for the fish to bump {not bite}, then they'd yank the beejeezuz out of it and every fish was snagged in the back, tail, side of the head, etc etc.

Buzz Bombs, Zzingers, Stingzeldas etc etc, all these type of lures were created to be used this way {lift rod tip, drop, reel in slack, repeat, while casting and retrieving}, but IMO they're all best fished when mooched vertically {lift rod tip, drop, repeat} from either a boat or fishing pier where there is lots of water underneath you.


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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2013, 11:34:37 AM »

I agree with Ian,

The problem I see with casting buzz bombs from shore is that if your {IMHO} fishing the buzz bomb correctly then you'll be looking like a snagger all day as you'd be pulling in hard and then reeling in the slack, this creates the proper effect the lure is supposed to portray. The Fraser is a shallow river for the most part so when guys are casting out their buzz bombs from shore they better be pulling and reeling pretty fast or it will be landing on the bottom continuously but while doing this you actually look like your snagging fish but all your doing is working the lure the way it was designed to be used.

I've caught loads of fish over my lifetime with a buzz bomb this way but waaaay more while fishing from a boat while mooching winter chinnook with my pops back in the 70's. Back then we used herring strip but when the dog fish got too bad we'd switch over to the buzz bomb {or move}. They basically will catch any fish in the ocean around here, salmon, ling cod, all rockfish, sole, dog fish, pollack, hake, etc etc, the list is endless really.

The two fellas I saw fishing their buzz bombs were not fishing them as an ethical angler would, they were casting it out, letting it hit bottom then reel reeeeeallly slow and wait for the fish to bump {not bite}, then they'd yank the beejeezuz out of it and every fish was snagged in the back, tail, side of the head, etc etc.

Buzz Bombs, Zzingers, Stingzeldas etc etc, all these type of lures were created to be used this way, but IMO they're all best fished when mooched vertically from either a boat or fishing pier where there is lots of water underneath you.
Finally someone who makes sense...Amen brother, couldn't agree more.
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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2013, 01:30:09 PM »

Lmao this doesnt make no sense ? You can do the same with a heavy spoon . Its all about the intent on how the fisherman uses its lure. Like someone mentioned earlier it more common seeing snags in fly fisherman cause there striping it over schools with sink tips ;)
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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2013, 03:41:25 PM »

Not snagged pink on a buzz bomb
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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2013, 03:49:12 PM »

What was the size of that buzz bomb that the fish swallowed?
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Chuck

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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2013, 03:53:22 PM »

That was me. It was the first Pink I caught this year  ;D and the first time on buzz bomb ::). I normally do not bring a net (it is in my car) when I fish for Pink. I love to fight and I take my time to wear them out then hand pick it up. My neighbor fishermen hate me doing it because it takes too long to land the fish so he net it for me ::). I recorded that day I said numerous times it is ok when you ask me if i need a net. Thank you anyway.

I hope you catch at least a fish next weekend and if it was on my buzz bomb, I will take 1/2 credit for it.  ;D

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Haha, awesome, it was my pleasure to help, and thanks again for the 'bomb, I had a nice morning regardless of catching nothing  :)
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Re: Buzz Bomb doesn't rotate
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2013, 04:32:05 PM »

Lmao this doesnt make no sense ? You can do the same with a heavy spoon . Its all about the intent on how the fisherman uses its lure. Like someone mentioned earlier it more common seeing snags in fly fisherman cause there striping it over schools with sink tips ;)

It makes total sense if you know how to fish a buzz bomb correctly, and yes your right, any heavy lure can do the same if the intent to snag is there.

It is true that many fly fisherman end up long lining fish but depending on what their fishing for, the intent CAN be there and then again it may not be. If they are fishing steelhead for example, they sometimes want the heavy sink tips and weighted flies to get into the zone, these help a lot instead of mending your my friend off and stepping up all day long. You'll still be mending but the weight definitely helps a lot when you need to get it deep in a hurry and still have the fly presented properly.

Bottom line is, if you intend to snag a fish, you can do it with damn near anything you want but i can't see the joy and satisfaction of snagging a fish when they can be caught fairly easy with almost anything presented right.
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