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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2013, 12:11:37 AM »

Neither have I, nor sockeye jacks.

Yes, I have seen chum jacks, although rare. Only have actually seen 1 in person myself, around 3 pounds.
Sockeye jacks are quite common in lots of runs... I caught 3 in one day this year on an island river around 2-3 pounds.

I wonder if there's a salmon that hasn't returned to a river  and just lives in ocean that would be cool catching 7-8 yrs old springs LOL

It is thought that many of the very large world record breaking chinook (among other species) were natural triploids. In this case, they would spend their entire life in the ocean, eating and putting on weight, rather than working towards putting energy into reproduction. These would be the 70+ pnd fish you see. During class, we were told of at least one world record fish (I believe it was an inconnu) that was tested and was indeed a natural triploid, which is why it grew to such a large size. The world record holding rainbow at this point was also a triploid.
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2013, 07:58:22 AM »

Cool photo!  I've never seen a pink "jack" before, but always wondered if they were out there.  Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2013, 08:07:24 AM »

Anyone ever see one of these gremlins. Couldnt get a better picture of him he was squirmin too much.

Nice pic! I have not seen a pink that small and I have landed many. :)
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2013, 08:22:57 AM »

Maybe it did not want to die that's why it never returned lol they can always have reproduction. In the ocean but wouldn't work
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2013, 08:32:21 AM »

A pink jack would be obvious as it would be an even year fish.
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2013, 08:34:47 AM »


It is thought that many of the very large world record breaking chinook (among other species) were natural triploids. In this case, they would spend their entire life in the ocean, eating and putting on weight, rather than working towards putting energy into reproduction. These would be the 70+ pnd fish you see. During class, we were told of at least one world record fish (I believe it was an inconnu) that was tested and was indeed a natural triploid, which is why it grew to such a large size. The world record holding rainbow at this point was also a triploid.

So if you get a monster chinook the bonk it since it would never be able to pass on genes anyway!
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2013, 09:51:45 AM »

Maybe 4lb chum doe from a couple years ago.
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2013, 10:45:25 AM »

no problem! :D Confused the hell outta me hahaha
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2013, 10:56:46 AM »

Typhoon that would have to be considered a small chum as jacks are male only.
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2013, 11:01:10 AM »

Coho only live just over 2 years as well and they do jack.

Not sure about the 2 year thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coho_salmon

"Young coho spend one to two years in their freshwater natal streams"

"Coho salmon live in salt water for one to three years before returning to spawn. Some precocious males, known as "jacks", return as two-year-old spawners. "
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2013, 11:52:22 AM »

Typhoon that would have to be considered a small chum as jacks are male only.

Lots of people didn't think about why we call Jack not Mary.
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2013, 12:36:43 PM »

Lots of people didn't think about why we call Jack not Mary.
or Jill??????????????????
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2013, 01:28:28 PM »

Coho only live just over 2 years as well and they do jack. Don't think it has much to do with how long a fish lives. A typical coho will spend 18 months at sea, a jack will only go out for 3 or 4 and come straight back. Personally I'm not sure if pinks jack, but every other species does to my knowledge, although not in the numbers you see with Chinook and coho

Coho typically live 3-4 years. Not two.
For a pink to jack, it would have to return to the streams after being less than a year old.
Also, because pinks have their 2-year cycle in place, a jack this year would have to be one of the few fish who are part of the even-year runs. If a fish from this years crop jacked, it would be up the river last year.
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2013, 02:48:07 PM »

it would be up the river last year.
l ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Pink Jack
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2013, 03:21:42 PM »

On the island they get a pink run every year... maybe it was just confused and followed the wrong fish up or somthing?
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