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Magz

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Re: Vedder: bait casting rod : 12' vs 14'
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2013, 10:28:03 PM »


[/quote]yes i think med /heavy or med is perfect all around power for a vedder rod.if u ever fish for white springs in the fall u definatetly want med /heavy as they are powerfull big fish.but for coho and steelhead i wld say medium power is nice as there usually a little easier on the hands/shoulders on a long fishing day.
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Re: Vedder: bait casting rod : 12' vs 14'
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2013, 05:43:13 AM »

G-Loomis Center Pin Rod STR 1562 GLX CP 13 Moderate Med-Light   Price 595.00
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Re: Vedder: bait casting rod : 12' vs 14'
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2013, 06:27:52 AM »

The 13 foot Rainshadow, is a lite rod to carry around all day.
I was talking to a fellow that has a Sage 3113 L, and he said because of the lite action sometimes hard for a hook set, and misses the odd fish, he thinks a medium action would be better.
I have a Sage 3113 M , the Rainshadow is a lighter rod to carry around all day.
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Re: Vedder: bait casting rod : 12' vs 14'
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2013, 07:02:43 AM »

I measured several Rainshadow blanks using the Common Cents System.

Casting: XST1262F 10'6" ERN: 12.5, AA: 77, making it powerful enough for pretty much any salmon. Fast action great for casting spoons as well.
Centerpin: XST1383F 11'3" ERN: 10.0, AA: 66 - great for steelhead and coho. Too light in my opinion for Chinook and large Chum in moving water.

Mostly it shows that you can't rely on the manufacturer's line, lure, or action rating to determine power or action.
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Re: Vedder: bait casting rod : 12' vs 14'
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2013, 12:11:46 PM »


Mostly it shows that you can't rely on the manufacturer's line, lure, or action rating to determine power or action.

The problem with that is there is no standard in the industry... So you'll get consistency within a manufacturer (ie a medium sage is heavier than a light sage) but once you go across manufacturers your various ratings are basically incomparable.
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Magz

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Re: Vedder: bait casting rod : 12' vs 14'
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2013, 12:41:11 PM »

The 13 foot Rainshadow, is a lite rod to carry around all day.
I was talking to a fellow that has a Sage 3113 L, and he said because of the lite action sometimes hard for a hook set, and misses the odd fish, he thinks a medium action would be better.
I have a Sage 3113 M , the Rainshadow is a lighter rod to carry around all day.
well i put that hook set to the test this coho season as i also use a 3113m .my rainshadow xst 1563-4 is a 6- 12lb line rating and i found for a lighter rod it had a great hook set.yes i lost a few  coho on it but landed more than i lost.then for a test i used my sage 3113m for a couple days to see if i could land a few more but my numbers were  very  close.the sage is a much heavier rod and i cant say that my hook set was any better.!!!!
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Re: Vedder: bait casting rod : 12' vs 14'
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2013, 02:53:43 PM »

Magz
         My Rainshadow is a two piece, and I agree with you.
A 13 foot rod I use in cetin arrears on the river. I would be fun to build a 10 Rainshadow. One can all ways use another fishing rod!
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Re: Vedder: bait casting rod : 12' vs 14'
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2013, 05:44:12 PM »

......this one gets used mainly for steel.It's not the meatstick you would think by the rating(on Batson's site actually rated at5/8-1-1/2)....It is a bit heavy in actual weight but has a sensitive tip and a nice med action in the top half with lots of backbone in the bottom for hooksets/turning fish..
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Re: Vedder: bait casting rod : 12' vs 14'
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2013, 09:29:21 AM »

Got 11'6" from berry's bait for 99$. May not be a perfect rod but good enough for a first bait casting rod. And an Abu 6500C3. Looking forward to taking this setup to the river. 14' definitely looked like an overkill. Thanks to all who replied!
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Re: Vedder: bait casting rod : 12' vs 14'
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2013, 12:45:19 PM »

Sounds like a perfect vedder setup.a bit longer than 10'6" to keep ur drift clean on long casts!!!i only use longer rods like the one 13' i have on my centerpin.i wouldnt use a 13' on a baitcaster on the vedder.
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