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Re: Shea Visits The West Coast
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2014, 12:17:15 AM »

Another waste of taxpayers' money. Do you really think she gives a hoot on the Cohen recommendation ?
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Re: Shea Visits The West Coast
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2014, 12:38:57 PM »

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Chris Acheson, executive director of the Sablefish Association, praised Findlay for setting up the meeting with local fishermen.

He said the Department of Fisheries and Oceans [DFO] has to go back to a percentage harvest rate of the annual salmon run instead of a fixed farming rate. He said all the fish left in the water is a “waste” and a loss to B.C.’s economy.


Those 'wasted' fish are the ones that get to spawn.  When the forecasts are so uncertain, how can anybody suggest a percentage harvest.  If that had happened in 2009 the allowable sockeye harvest would have been greater than the return and wrong again in 2010.

The commercial boys and girls seem quite concerned about 'excess' fish on the spawning grounds.   In 2010 there was a huge 'excess' of sockeye on the spawning grounds.   We will see this year if they were wasted.

It is probably true that too many fish on the spawning grounds results in lower survival but it seems logical to me to harvest 10% of 100 million fish and take your chances about a few spot spawning failures rather than 10% of a million fish.
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Re: Shea Visits The West Coast
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2014, 07:08:09 PM »

Those 'wasted' fish are the ones that get to spawn.  When the forecasts are so uncertain, how can anybody suggest a percentage harvest.  If that had happened in 2009 the allowable sockeye harvest would have been greater than the return and wrong again in 2010.

The commercial boys and girls seem quite concerned about 'excess' fish on the spawning grounds.   In 2010 there was a huge 'excess' of sockeye on the spawning grounds.   We will see this year if they were wasted.

It is probably true that too many fish on the spawning grounds results in lower survival but it seems logical to me to harvest 10% of 100 million fish and take your chances about a few spot spawning failures rather than 10% of a million fish.

Either Acheson is clueless, or he was misquoted. Fraser sockeye are harvest on a fixed exploitation (Harvest) rate, with a few wrinkles. Basically, if it's a big run, they are getting  a fixed percentage. At low returns, the percentage will drop, and there is a floor at which no more harvest will occur.
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Re: Shea Visits The West Coast
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2014, 06:46:07 AM »

I love these nice photo ops and news stories being put out lately showing how the Fisheries Minister is "following up" on the Cohen recommendations.  Before we witnessed how Conservative MPs in BC showed their concern for Cohen recommendations at a photo op at Cultus Lake.  Strange thing is that if you read the latest article is touches very little on the important work needed to address the recommendations or concern for Fraser Sockeye declines and more on commercial guys being able to wack more Fraser Sockeye, trade initiatives to diversify the seafood industry, why Pinks were not able to be fished, dredging, and peanuts being throw out in the last budget.

No mention of the implementation of the Wild Salmon Policy.....however, it seems this policy now conflicts with the new mandate which is touched on in the article.  Apparently, no response on the other recommendations in the report....only that Shea is getting out and meeting with people, looking concerned.  On the other hand you have environmentalists that can't get Cohen right either and laywers that make money off inquiries.   
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Re: Shea Visits The West Coast
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2014, 07:06:10 AM »

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On the other hand you have environmentalists that can't get Cohen right either and laywers that make money off inquiries. 

Interesting that you mention this.  I recently attended a talk by Craig Stevens where he said at the cohen hearings there was not one person/lawyer representing the salmon.  Certainly was a flawed process.

A bit about craig stevens and his presentation:

In his presentation, Craig will discuss the need to re-imagine how we think about healthy salmon populations and why, at a time of unprecedented environmental change, it is time for collaboration rather than conflict if we aim to conserve this iconic species. Salmon health has too long been focused on finding the ‘smoking gun’ that will explain why some runs are declining. Craig will discuss why a ‘health-first’ agenda might be a more effective approach to salmon recovery in our changing world.


Dr. Craig Stephen is the director of the Centre for Coastal Health in Nanaimo. The Centre is a non-profit organization that looks at health issues at the interface of people, animals and their shared environment. Craig is a veterinarian with a PhD in epidemiology. He has worked extensively in Canada and around the world looking at how we can prevent environmental risks and promote healthy populations by applying collaborative approaches that cross species and disciplines. His work has involved several fish and wildlife projects including work on salmon health in BC such as being a scientific advisor to the Cohen Commission into the Disappearance of Fraser River Sockeye Salmon and being a health advisor to the World Wildlife Fund’s Salmon Aquaculture Dialogue. Craig was the fish health veterinarian for over 10 years for the Vancouver Aquarium and now provides health advice to the Ucluelet Aquarium. Craig is a professor in the Department of Ecosystem and Public Health in the Faculty of Veterinary Medicine and in the Department of Community Health Science in the Department of Medicine at the University of Calgary.
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Re: Shea Visits The West Coast
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2014, 10:04:07 AM »

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