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[VAGAbond]

Update on Area 12 Seine 2009/2010/2014 test fishing comparison:



PSC indicates that in recent days 99% are coming down the inside this year.

It probably takes ~10 days from Area 12 to the Fraser.

[Easywater]

Someone told me that there are so many fish making it to the spawning grounds that gillnetters are being paid to take their boats up to Kamloops Lake.

The limit should be raised to 4 per day in the non-tidal.

[DionJL]

Someone told me .....The limit should be raised to 4 per day in the non-tidal.

LOL.

[Rodney]

Friday, August 22, 2014

The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 22 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.

At the meeting today, the run-size estimate of 2,200,000 Early Summer-run sockeye with a 50% marine migration timing through Area 20 of August 10 was unchanged. At the meeting today, the run-size estimate of 6,300,000 Summer-run sockeye was increased to 7,000,000 fish with a 50% marine migration timing through Area 20 of August 16. Assessments of Late-run sockeye abundance are ongoing. Recent test fishing catches indicate 97% of the Fraser sockeye are currently passing through Johnstone Strait.

On August 21, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was approximately 2,934 cms, which is approximately 10% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on August 21 was 20.1C, which is 2.8C higher than average for this date. Fraser River water temperatures at Qualark Creek are forecast to decrease to approximately 18.5C by August 27. Sustained high water temperatures can cause severe stress to migrating sockeye and may lead to significant en route mortality. Migration conditions for Fraser sockeye will be monitored closely and appropriate management actions will be taken.

The Panel announced the following regulations for Panel Area waters:

CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:

Area 18-1, 18-4, and 18-11 and Area 29-1 to 6: As previously announced, open to Area H troll ITQ fishery from 12:01 a.m. Wednesday August 6, 2014 until further notice. (Please refer to DFO Fishery Notices for further details).

Area 29: Portions of 29- 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10 and 11 to 17: Open to Area E gillnets from 8:00 a.m. Monday, August 25, 2014, to 8:00 a.m. Tuesday, August 26, 2014. (Please refer to DFO Fishery Notices for further details).

UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:

TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:

Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: As previously announced, open for drift gillnets 12:00 p.m. (noon), Wednesday, August 20, 2014, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday, August 23, 2014.

Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Extended for drift gillnets 12:00 p.m. (noon), Saturday, August 23, 2014, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Wednesday, August 27, 2014.

Areas 6, 7 and 7A: Open net fishing from 5:00 a.m. Saturday, August 23, 2014 through 9:00 a.m. Monday, August 25, 2014.

ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:

Area 7 and 7A: As previously announced, open to purse seines from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Friday, August 22, 2014.

Area 7 and 7A: Open to purse seines from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday August 25, 2014 and Tuesday August 26, 2014.

Area 7 and 7A: As previously announced, open to gillnets from 8:00 a.m. to 11:59 p.m. (midnight) Friday, August 22, 2014.

Area 7 and 7A: Open to gillnets from 8:00 a.m. to 11:59 p.m. (midnight) Monday, August 25, 2014 and Tuesday, August 26, 2014.

Area 7 and 7A: As previously announced, open to reefnets from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Friday, August 22, 2014.

Area 7 and 7A: Open to reefnets from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Saturday, August 23, 2014 through Tuesday, August 26, 2014.

(Note: U. S. Non-Treaty fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).

The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, August 26, 2014.

http://www.psc.org/NewsRel/2014/Announcement15.pdf

[VAGAbond]

Recreational 
Marine 100
Fraser R. 48,600

Rodney, at the end of the PSC announcement for today there are statistics on the catch to date that include the above numbers for recreational take.  The full list of numbers includes seine results etc. and so they appear to represent the total coastal take of sockeye.   If the 100 fish recreational number for the marine area is a serious estimate, somebody has a great misunderstanding of what is going on.  Can you shed any light on this number?

The sockeye are taken in the marine area from Port Hardy south by fleets of recreational boats.   I live in Richmond and had a boat for years and can attest from experience that it is far easier to catch a dozen sockeye trolling in the marine area than it is to bottom bounce for them on the Fraser.  I see many boats heading down the river and they wouldn't bother with the fancy strings of dummy flashers etc. if they were hardly catching any fish.   Each of these boats will have two, three, four fishers and many come back with their four fish/person limits.

I suspect the 100 fish figure represents a decimal point error of at least two if not three decimal places. My guess is that there are as many sockeye taken in the marine area as in the Fraser, if not more.

[Easywater]

LOL.

What was it that you found funny?
Perhaps I should have prefaced my comment with "if this is true..."

Whonnock test fishery recorded the biggest set in the last 12 years on Aug 22.

[Rodney]

Rodney, at the end of the PSC announcement for today there are statistics on the catch to date that include the above numbers for recreational take.  The full list of numbers includes seine results etc. and so they appear to represent the total coastal take of sockeye.   If the 100 fish recreational number for the marine area is a serious estimate, somebody has a great misunderstanding of what is going on.  Can you shed any light on this number?

The sockeye are taken in the marine area from Port Hardy south by fleets of recreational boats.   I live in Richmond and had a boat for years and can attest from experience that it is far easier to catch a dozen sockeye trolling in the marine area than it is to bottom bounce for them on the Fraser.  I see many boats heading down the river and they wouldn't bother with the fancy strings of dummy flashers etc. if they were hardly catching any fish.   Each of these boats will have two, three, four fishers and many come back with their four fish/person limits.

I suspect the 100 fish figure represents a decimal point error of at least two if not three decimal places. My guess is that there are as many sockeye taken in the marine area as in the Fraser, if not more.

I'm not sure and going to find out now.

[Fish Assassin]

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2014/08/24/3815002_warm-blob-keeps-possible-record.html?sp=/99/100/&rh=1

[dereke]

Easywater there were netters out in 2010 in Kamloops lake as well. Nothing new for this years run.

[Rieber]

Are there any discussions on when the Fraser Sockeye opening for recreationals will come to an end?

[Rodney]

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=36283.msg343887#msg343887

[Rieber]

Possible sockeye retention until mid Sept. - wow. I seem to recall 1998 also closed a week or two after the Labour day weekend - maybe I'm wrong on the year.

Nice - thanks.

[Rodney]

Tuesday, August 26, 2014

The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, August 26 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.

At the meeting today, the run-size estimate of 2,200,000 Early Summer-run sockeye was decreased to 2,000,000 fish with a 50% marine migration timing through Area 20 of August 8. At the meeting today, the run-size estimate of 7,000,000 Summer-run sockeye was decreased to 6,000,000 fish with a 50% marine migration timing through Area 20 of August 14. Assessments of Late-run sockeye abundance are ongoing. Recent test fishing catches indicate 94% of the Fraser sockeye are currently passing through Johnstone Strait.

On August 25, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was approximately 2,511 cms, which is approximately 17% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on August 25 was 18.4C, which is 1.2C higher than average for this date. Fraser River water temperatures at Qualark Creek are forecast to decrease to approximately 18.3C by August 31. Sustained high water temperatures can cause severe stress to migrating sockeye and may lead to significant en route mortality. Migration conditions for Fraser sockeye will be monitored closely and appropriate management actions will be taken.

The Panel announced the following regulations for Panel Area waters:

CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:

Area 18-1, 18-4, and 18-11 and Area 29-1 to 6: As previously announced, open to Area H troll ITQ fishery from 12:01 a.m. Wednesday August 6, 2014 until further notice. (Please refer to DFO Fishery Notices for further details).

Area 29: Portions of 29- 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10 and 11 to 17: Open to Area E gillnets from 12:00 p.m. (noon) Wednesday, August 27, 2014, to 8:00 p.m. Wednesday, August 27, 2014. (Please refer to DFO Fishery Notices for further details).

Tuesday, August 26, 2014

UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:

TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:

Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: As previously announced, open for drift gillnets 12:00 p.m. (noon), Saturday, August 23, 2014, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Wednesday, August 27, 2014.

Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Extended for drift gillnets 12:00 p.m. (noon), Wednesday, August 27, 2014, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday, August 30, 2014.

Areas 6, 7 and 7A: Open net fishing from 5:00 a.m. Wednesday, August 27, 2014 through 9:00 a.m. Saturday, August 30, 2014.

ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:

Area 7 and 7A: As previously announced, open to purse seines from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday August 25, 2014 and Tuesday August 26, 2014.

Area 7 and 7A: As previously announced, open to gillnets from 8:00 a.m. to 11:59 p.m. (midnight) Monday, August 25, 2014 and Tuesday, August 26, 2014.

Area 7 and 7A: As previously announced, open to reefnets from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Saturday, August 23, 2014 through Tuesday, August 26, 2014.

Area 7 and 7A: Open to reefnets from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Wednesday, August 27, 2014 through Friday, August 29, 2014.

(Note: U. S. Non-Treaty fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).

The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Friday, August 29, 2014.

[Rodney]

Friday, August 29, 2014

The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 29 to receive an update on the migration of Fraser sockeye and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.

At the meeting today, the run-size estimate of 2,000,000 Early Summer-run sockeye was decreased to 1,900,000 fish with a 50% marine migration timing through Area 20 of August 8. At the meeting today, the run-size estimate of 6,000,000 Summer-run sockeye was increased to 7,000,000 fish with a 50% marine migration timing through Area 20 of August 16. Assessments of Late-run sockeye abundance are ongoing. Recent test fishing catches indicate 99% of the Fraser sockeye are currently passing through Johnstone Strait.

On August 28, the Fraser River water discharge at Hope was approximately 2,146 cms, which is approximately 24% lower than average for this date. The temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek on August 28 was 18.9C, which is 2.1C higher than average for this date. Fraser River water temperatures at Qualark Creek are forecast to decrease to approximately 16.6C by September 3rd. Sustained high water temperatures can cause severe stress to migrating sockeye and may lead to significant en route mortality. Migration conditions for Fraser sockeye will be monitored closely and appropriate management actions will be taken.

The Panel announced the following regulations for Panel Area waters:

CANADIAN FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:

Area 18-1, 18-4, and 18-11 and Area 29-1 to 6: As previously announced, open to Area H troll ITQ fishery from 12:01 a.m. Wednesday August 6, 2014 until further notice. (Please refer to DFO Fishery Notices for further details).

Area 29: Portions of 29- 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10 and 11 to 17: Open to Area E gillnets from 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. Tuesday, September 2, 2014. (Please refer to DFO Fishery Notices for further details).

UNITED STATES FRASER RIVER PANEL AREA WATERS:

TREATY INDIAN FISHERY:

Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: As previously announced, open for drift gillnets 12:00 p.m. (noon), Wednesday, August 27, 2014, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Saturday, August 30, 2014.

Areas 4B, 5 and 6C: Extended for drift gillnets 12:00 p.m. (noon), Saturday, August 30, 2014, to 12:00 p.m. (noon) Wednesday, September 3, 2014.

Areas 6, 7 and 7A: As previously announced, open net fishing from 5:00 a.m. Wednesday, August 27, 2014 through 9:00 a.m. Saturday, August 30, 2014.

Areas 6, 7 and 7A: Extended for net fishing from 9:00 a.m. Saturday, August 30, 2014 through 9:00 a.m. Sunday, August 31, 2014.

Areas 6, 7 and 7A: Open for net fishing from 12:01 a.m. (midnight) Tuesday, September 2, 2014 through 9:00 a.m. Wednesday, September 3, 2014.

ALL CITIZEN FISHERY:

Area 7 and 7A:Open to purse seines from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Sunday August 31,
2014.

Area 7 and 7A: Open to gillnets from 8:00 a.m. to 11:59 p.m. (midnight) Monday, September 1, 2014.

Area 7 and 7A: As previously announced, open to reefnets from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Wednesday, August 27, 2014 through Friday, August 29, 2014.

Area 7 and 7A: Open to reefnets from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. daily from Saturday, August 30, 2014 through Tuesday, September2, 2014.

(Note: U. S. Non-Treaty fishers should check the U.S. hotline and WDFW regulations before fishing as there are additional State of Washington regulations, including time restrictions that may be in effect).

The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on Tuesday, September 2, 2014.

[chris gadsden]

Are there any discussions on when the Fraser Sockeye opening for recreationals will come to an end?

From what I gather it will be mid month, I so we will have a Fraser River Cleanup on Saturday the 20th,sponsored by the Fraser Valley Salmon Society more details later. Boats will be needed to access the heavily fished bars.