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HOOK

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Re: Looking to get into Jig Tying.
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2014, 10:37:40 AM »

Do none of you jig guys ever wrap zonker cut rabbit strips ??

I do this on many flies when I want a larger more pulsating profile. Trick is to just barely overlap each consecutive wrap over the one before so that the hairs slightly lean to the rear but they will still basically be standing up 90degrees to the shank. Tie one and take it to some flowing water and you'll see what I mean by how the fur will pulsate more than just flow like cross cut does  ;)

Another thing I like doing is cross cut for the rear half and then wrap zonker at the head end, the zonker will push more water allowing the cross cut to dance behind it. This is how I do a lot of my rabbit leeches for steelhead


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Re: Looking to get into Jig Tying.
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2014, 03:09:26 PM »

Thanks again everyone. Will be placing an order with Rod within the next couple days.
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Re: Looking to get into Jig Tying.
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2014, 05:31:21 PM »

Do none of you jig guys ever wrap zonker cut rabbit strips ??

I do this on many flies when I want a larger more pulsating profile. Trick is to just barely overlap each consecutive wrap over the one before so that the hairs slightly lean to the rear but they will still basically be standing up 90degrees to the shank. Tie one and take it to some flowing water and you'll see what I mean by how the fur will pulsate more than just flow like cross cut does  ;)

Another thing I like doing is cross cut for the rear half and then wrap zonker at the head end, the zonker will push more water allowing the cross cut to dance behind it. This is how I do a lot of my rabbit leeches for steelhead


Have fun tying
For steelhead I almost always use rabbit at the rear (zonker, not cross-cut) and nice webby Schlappen at the front. For chum and coho I use Marabou.
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Re: Looking to get into Jig Tying.
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2014, 12:46:42 AM »

I do sort of the same thing Typhoon. when I said cross cut rear, zonker front it refers to a MOAL leech type pattern but when I want a fuller head. I too make bunny flies with zonker tails but I also attach the trailer hook to the rabbit strip
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Re: Looking to get into Jig Tying.
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2014, 04:36:40 PM »

Sorry to jack your thread but can someone explain the differences between mariboo and schlappen to me?
I mean in terms of what it does in the water comparitively.
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Re: Looking to get into Jig Tying.
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2014, 12:22:45 AM »

Tbh I cant tell you the difference in terms of movement, never decided to take notice.

However Schlappen is a lot easier to wrap then palmering marabou. 

Here is a Squidro where I've palmered the marabou. 


And here is a Sex Dungeon.


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Re: Looking to get into Jig Tying.
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2014, 01:09:27 AM »

Marabou plumes have longer fluffier fibres than schlappen and will hold more water once soaked. Marabou will have more movement in the water due to the softness of it but Schlappen will hold its shape better. Schlappen is also a tougher feather and will stand up to abuse longer.

Both marabou and schlappen have regular strung feathers and then the "select" (or whatever the company calls them) type of feathers. Select ones will be better all around but will cost more obviously.

Each feather has its place depending on the effect your going for or size of fly you want.

Clarkii - is that your first "squidro" you've tied ?
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Re: Looking to get into Jig Tying.
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2014, 07:25:20 AM »

Not my  first but definetly im the single digits.

Take me a while to tie and I think I need some different materials as well...
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Re: Looking to get into Jig Tying.
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2014, 11:11:23 PM »

Not my  first but definetly im the single digits.

Take me a while to tie and I think I need some different materials as well...

Try using Arctic Fox instead of marabou. brush out the fluffy stuff and then spin the hair in a dubbing loop and wrap it forward in very tight touching turns, remember less is more

Here is one of mine for example of sparseness

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Re: Looking to get into Jig Tying.
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2014, 07:23:44 AM »

Thanks Hook!
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