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[Silver]

I'm confused about the tides and timing? Please clarify...

If the simple rule is to fish the incoming tide from low to high...then why would would fishing an outgoing tide also be more appropriate?

I was investigating Barrowtown today at 5pm, with approximately 6pm being high tide...and several people we packing up for the day saying you can't fish with roe now...only spinner fishing???

This is not the first time I've heard that certain bars are better at either high or low tide...it just seems that there is no logic to this...what is the reasoning?

[Silver]

Glen Valley today...nicest spot so far.

3 things confirmed today that I have read before as tips for Lower Fraser bar fishing.

1) Used a light spin cast outfit. Could detect the slightest of bites, and when set would hook into fish that would otherwise be ignored.
However, after setting a tiny tug got spooled by a screaming run...you can't judge the size of fish by the bite.
Will need a bigger reel if using a light rod...but detection is vastly improved.


2) Peak tide to halfway outgoing is best time...until next peak very slow.

3) Hook roe with bait loop and twist loop again (half hitch)...roe stays on properly and for much longer.

Lost several including the big one, landed and released 2 jacks.

[halcyonguitars]

Thanks, good info!

[wizard]

Remember to clean up your garbage wherever you fish.  A lot of these bars are being ruined and completely covered with trash, line, coffee cups, diapers etc... next time you guys go out bring an extra bag and fill it with trash left behind by the beaks, thanks. 
And remember to not drag a fish onto shore before seeing if it is a wild or hatch. Unfortunately common sense and courtesy seems to be the exception nowadays.

[TimL]

Glen Valley today...nicest spot so far.

3 things confirmed today that I have read before as tips for Lower Fraser bar fishing.

1) Used a light spin cast outfit. Could detect the slightest of bites, and when set would hook into fish that would otherwise be ignored.
However, after setting a tiny tug got spooled by a screaming run...you can't judge the size of fish by the bite.
Will need a bigger reel if using a light rod...but detection is vastly improved.


2) Peak tide to halfway outgoing is best time...until next peak very slow.

3) Hook roe with bait loop and twist loop again (half hitch)...roe stays on properly and for much longer.

Lost several including the big one, landed and released 2 jacks.

What line poundage are you using? I'm thinking of going lighter next time but the line still has to be strong enough to handle casts with a 2-4 oz sinker if I'm bar fishing. I've been getting plenty of tiny bites as well but I found that most of them seem hesitant- maybe 1 or 2 quick nibbles before it goes dead again..I guess my question is timing- knowing when to (or not) set the hook.

[wizard]

while bar fishing, keep a pair of scissors on you while landing fish. if the fish has swallowed the hook, which is very common, be prepared to quickly cut off your hook instead of trying to pry down a usually thrashing fishes throat with pliers trying to dislodge it which causes great deal of furthered damage to the fish especially blood loss... 
Seen a few people taking forever trying to get their hook out of wilds, either they are using barbed hooks or fish has swallowed bait too deep and should be just cutting their leaders instead of trying to get out.

[Silver]

17 lb Nanofil on the spinning reel, and 20lb Ultragreen on the baitcaster. Both are perfect but I prefer the braid. The lack of stretch also adds to the sensitivity and aids in hookset ability. Most people need to do an exaggerated axe swing to hook up...more relaxed with the spinning rod.

My 30 sized reel should have been enough capacity but was 1/3 under spooled...Im going to reline this reel as the lighter setup with a sensitive tip is preferable.

Having now tried both with this fishery I know this is the way to go. I was outfishing all of the regulars that day and I think it was because of the rod/reel combo.
Using the long river rod with Mono has dull sensitivity and too much stretch.

Also, I feel that completely natural roe is best...no cure, dye, etc. Just borax, but even water cured raw would be better.

I believe that most of those little takes could be hookups if reacted upon quickly. The monster lunker I lost was hooked after a little 1 inch (the largest take of the day, most being little taps) deflection on the rod tip with my medium/fast rod.

Looks like most seasoned regulars are looking for only big takes, possibly the only ones evident with the big river rods.

Wizard makes a good point. While I didnt have any swallowed hooks...guy beside did and needed pliers to remove...dont think it was a barbed issue because he and everyone elsed seemed very cautious to check for wilds carefully first. Highly policed by everyone it seems.

[Silver]

Several caught by all today...somewhat consistent.

[halcyonguitars]

Don't that look tasty!

[halcyonguitars]

Silver, were you bottom fishing with roe, or float fishing?

[Silver]

I am bar fishing roe...I explained my setup in greater detail above.

Went out today with no success. It was extremely busy, and I had to fish father down river. The water was quite coloured as opposed to the good clarity from other days out...no rains?
Not many caught around me except for a few wilds and a sturgeon.

Several guide boats today also beaching sturgeon for photos.

[halcyonguitars]

Hi Silver,

That's what made me ask. How can you bar fish with a light spin combo? I thought you fad to toss 18-22" of weight?

[Silver]

Lower fraser bar fishing up to mission is much lighter with gear. Small hooks, light line, little t-bar's, etc...only 2-4 oz weight is needed.
This version of bar fishing is typically done with only fresh chum roe as bait.
My rod is a St. croix med/light and has a strong backbone...so not any light spin outfit will be sufficient.
Berry's tackle is the place to go for this fishery.

The upper fraser uses all that heavy gear with spin glows etc...also in my experience I've only needed 14oz for the areas I went to.

[halcyonguitars]

Thanks...

[Silver]

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