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What do you guys think? Old summer or an old winter run steelhead?

SUMMER!!
- 6 (54.5%)
WINTER!!
- 5 (45.5%)

Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: January 15, 2016, 04:39:31 PM


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Rieber

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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2016, 09:13:26 PM »

And I believe you were using jigs those days - no secret there. I remember your post from November and you believing then that it was a Steelhead.

Although you have the tail squeezed it still is a forked tail indicating salmon not steelhead.

I think I count 12 anal fin rays which is more typically Coho than Steelhead - although Steelhead occasionally have 12 anal fin rays.
I believe I can see a little bit of rose in the cheeks and maybe on the body.

I can't see the mouth properly to id from there - Clearly you can see white but the fish is reaching rot state. I would have never picked up that rot with wet cut hands for fear of infection. But to each their own - you're young with likely a strong immune system.

Sorry but more indications to me it's coho than steelhead. It's the yellow, brown colour that throws me off a little but I still believe its a Coho.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2016, 09:27:00 PM by Rieber »
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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2016, 10:07:39 PM »

I can not believe u think that is a steelhead  Bahaha.  U ask our opinions and choose your own?   Why ask I'm sure the few years u been actually fishing have made u the master   Between all of us we have many more years under our belts   U should be thanking these guys for helping u   It's a COHO!
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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2016, 10:32:22 PM »

What's interesting is the mouth. Don't coho usually have black mouth with white gums and steelhead just have white mouths?
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bobby b

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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2016, 11:14:56 PM »

I can not believe u think that is a steelhead  Bahaha.  U ask our opinions and choose your own?   Why ask I'm sure the few years u been actually fishing have made u the master   Between all of us we have many more years under our belts   U should be thanking these guys for helping u   It's a COHO!

Your first post eh... 

No need to drag this whole thing on and through the mud , so to speak. ...  this is starting to spiral..

Nuff has been said already, as has been said maybe the OP had a bit of 'tude in his post.... and those that TLS directly responded too ( albeit a bit off the cuff )  have already given their thoughts back at him..

Lets get over it already.

Fish on
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bobby b

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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2016, 11:24:40 PM »

PS: The Lost Sockeye:   why not repost that picture of the DEAD STEELHEAD?  ... that worked wonders for yah!

C'mon....Seriously....?
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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2016, 11:31:26 PM »

Kitty caught this really nice winter run yesterday too... Apparently your steelhead isn't the only one around right now that looks suspiciously like a coho  :P

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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2016, 12:27:26 AM »

Only 5 votes including my old winter vote. Sure does look like a ho though..
Hard to tell from the photo but on my count I defined 10 spines on the anal fin and from what I've read coho have 12-15 whereas o.mykiss have 8-12. Poll should be late summer or early winter. ;D
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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2016, 03:10:29 AM »

Jeesh kid u have a lot to learn. That is a old boot coho. No summer run Steelhead on the Vedder. Keep fishing hard and u will be rewarded with a Winter run Steelhead...
lies , I caught 1 last summer , my buddy can prove it and he has pics , we showed them at fred`s and guys there said it is very rare summer run steelhead .
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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2016, 05:45:16 AM »

Kitty caught this really nice winter run yesterday too... Apparently your steelhead isn't the only one around right now that looks suspiciously like a coho  :P



I was also rewarded last week with a specimen like Kitty's. All be it a little bit smaller. Sure nice to see.
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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2016, 05:54:54 AM »

100% coho the tails even rotting lol things a kelt
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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2016, 11:15:11 AM »

I find it extremely interesting that a Coho and a Steelhead can look almost identical. Clearly they both evolved from the same relative. I wonder which one came from where? Did a Rainbow Trout decide that 10 million years ago it was going to go to the ocean to find a food source and then branch off into Pacific Salmon species, or was it the other way around?? Google time

Guess we don't fully know? They seem to have all come from the era of the early Miocene (about 20 million years ago) and the only fossil species from that era being O. rastrosus, the sabertooth salmon.

Crazy interesting!



Anadromy is a life survival strategy developed in the right conditions (access to the ocean) so given the opportunity, most coastal species have adapted it. A steelhead is not a species on its own, but a rainbow trout which possesses this life history. It did not go into the ocean to be "more like" salmon. Anadromous and exclusively freshwater varieties of the same species can be found in many species in Coastal BC - Sockeye/kokanee, landlocked coho and chinook, searun/lake coastal cutthroat trout, bull trout, dolly varden, steelhead/rainbow trout, some sculpin species.

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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2016, 12:43:28 PM »

I think the general consensus is that Salmonids were originally freshwater fish based on the assumption that the reproductive habits tend to be the most resistant to evolutionary change. Salmonids reproduce in freshwater, in rivers and streams with a few exceptions.

Anadromous behaviour relates to feeding; the ocean offers far more abundant feeding opportunities and better growth. Larger size means higher reproductive efficiency - the females makes more eggs. Evolutionary success is about reproductive success and nothing more. There are trade offs as the migrations expose the fish to higher predation and mortality from other sources. If those moralities outweigh the reproductive advantages anadromy as a evolutionary strategy will die off.
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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2016, 02:56:12 PM »

Here's a January Vedder 'ho from a few years ago. The spots on the lower lobe of the tail threw me off for a bit.
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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2016, 04:25:53 PM »

"Masou" salmon, well thats news to me awesome read about that online yet another wonder of the fishing world pretty cool.
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Re: Summer Or Winter run ?
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2016, 05:09:05 PM »

Jeesh kid u have a lot to learn. That is a old boot coho. No summer run Steelhead on the Vedder. Keep fishing hard and u will be rewarded with a Winter run Steelhead...
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