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Every Day

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Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« on: January 18, 2016, 11:38:33 PM »

A friend sent me this tonight.

https://www.facebook.com/marla.billy.5/videos/vb.100000025241402/1131669216843909/?type=2&theater

This is a stock in extreme conservation concern. A stock that was completely closed down to recreational angling due to the lowest ever return recorded. This is why we need enforcement on these rivers - and why I truly believe that closures actually promote poaching. Do you think this would have happened in that (popular) run with someone else there? Probably not.

I'm pretty outraged right now. Conservation comes first... why can't everyone just be on the same page for once?! I've sent this in to RAPP, and I 'd encourage everyone else to do the same. If enough people report, maybe this will actually go somewhere...

Some pics that I've saved in case the video goes down..

Captioned:
"Was a good time out fishing :) Burton caught 3 while I got snagged and pulled in 6 branches from the river"
Posted 4:35 pm on January 18, 2016.









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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2016, 11:42:57 PM »

P.S. I really want to keep this a respectful/civil discussion. No hateful terms/words/phrases thrown around please. Let's just focus on the fact that this is happening on not just the Thompson, but a number of other closed systems as well, by a number of different ethnic groups.

I also want to make clear that Conservation of a species is above all else. This is a stock in extreme conservation concern - there is no harvest, period. Conservation trumps all, and I hope that the COS deals with this accordingly with that mandate.
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2016, 12:02:21 AM »

I am amazed at how people openly breaks the law and then goes and post it on the internet for everyone to see. Are they really that stupid or are they just starving for attention ?
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2016, 03:23:00 AM »

This has been going on for decades! Now a buddy sends you pics and you act all shocked! It's everywhere ED, Everywhere!!!!

Good luck in the fight! You had better odds cashing in on the Power Ball last week!
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2016, 07:34:31 AM »

Conservation ? What is that word? That word no longer exists in this world.
 I was told from a reliable source that the powers to be are allowing a increase in the bait fishery of the Georgian basin. That's the herring. I will find out more and post.
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2016, 08:40:23 AM »

Conservation first?
Don't be naïve, Dan. Poaching by FN has been going on forever.

The most we can do is what we have been doing all along, regardless of the ethnicity of the perpetrators.
O-R-R (Observe-Record-Report) is our only recourse.
Unless you yourself want to push the offending fellow into the water, release the fish and start another war with the injuns.
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2016, 10:02:41 AM »

def not cool. i have not had the chance to participate in this fishery which is on my bucket list but not if the system cant handle it.
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2016, 10:14:29 AM »

All these responses saying conservation doesn't exist, it's been going on forever, it wont stop... etc. are exactly why these things continue to happen. If no one stands up for what they believe, nothing will happen. If everyone lobby's their opinion hard enough, things will change.
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2016, 11:39:59 AM »

Video isn't working for me.
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2016, 12:06:07 PM »

I think it has been removed.
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2016, 02:52:08 PM »

Submitted a report.  Was actually going through before the violation as evident by the photos.

I also screenshoted all the pics, they have also been taken down.
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2016, 03:17:15 PM »

All these responses saying conservation doesn't exist, it's been going on forever, it wont stop... etc. are exactly why these things continue to happen. If no one stands up for what they believe, nothing will happen. If everyone lobby's their opinion hard enough, things will change.

OK, I'll bite. What have you done so far to make a difference?
Concrete examples, please.
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2016, 05:55:49 PM »

I was involved in swims to count fish, brood stock fished 3 yrs. on the Oyster. Brood stock fish for the Quinsam hatchery for steelhead and cutthroats Protested the coal mine in the watershed of the Quinsam, warned the biologist of the decline of the steelhead in the Quinsam 4 yrs. before they closed most of the east coast rivers on Vancouver Island.
 Recently been trying to convince the forester that looks after the head waters of Trout creek to refrain from logging a cut block in a sensitive wetland that feeds said creek.
 I have a sore head from hitting it against a wall.
 You had better hope that they don't pass the TPP trade agreement, or the TTIP or the other trade agreement that Canada is trying to get with Europe. You should find out about these issues and understand how the are going to affect your lives. Welcome to the Matrix, serf slave.
 The government owns me and you from the time we are born to day we die. Check that out too.
  Then after the shock of your life search for the real owner of this world and what he has to say about where we are in his time schedule
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2016, 06:09:31 PM »

BLAIR.
NO!
And your supply of strobe lite type giffs should add more than annoyance.

Just sayin' :o
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Re: Completely Unacceptable Poaching!
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2016, 06:13:03 PM »

I was involved in swims to count fish, brood stock fished 3 yrs. on the Oyster. Brood stock fish for the Quinsam hatchery for steelhead and cutthroats Protested the coal mine in the watershed of the Quinsam, warned the biologist of the decline of the steelhead in the Quinsam 4 yrs. before they closed most of the east coast rivers on Vancouver Island.
 Recently been trying to convince the forester that looks after the head waters of Trout creek to refrain from logging a cut block in a sensitive wetland that feeds said creek.
 I have a sore head from hitting it against a wall.
 You had better hope that they don't pass the TPP trade agreement, or the TTIP or the other trade agreement that Canada is trying to get with Europe. You should find out about these issues and understand how the are going to affect your lives. Welcome to the Matrix, serf slave.
 The government owns me and you from the time we are born to day we die. Check that out too.
  Then after the shock of your life search for the real owner of this world and what he has to say about where we are in his time schedule
Well said Islanddude!  8)
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