Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Author Topic: C&R fish handling  (Read 13256 times)

hrenya

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 403
C&R fish handling
« on: March 31, 2016, 02:49:48 PM »

I asked to delete my report post , and hoping that we can all argue in this one .
So lets talk :

1) Can you take fish out the water ?! (Including net)
2) Can you do that with your bare hands (of cuz must be wet and not gloves ) ?!
3) Can you land fish on the shore ?!
4) Does the 3 seconds rule apply to C&R ?!


Im holding regulations right now in my hands :
"minimized the time out of the water" a quote from page 11

Lets talk about it , I really was disappointed after some critics in my topic about quick shot , also about critics to TimL , but I didn`t see ANYONE done any critic to "FISH PORN" topic and pictures in it ... So im getting a little bit confused , if some people (who are legit fishermen/women) can do that , but other people can not . Lets figure it out :)
Logged

TheChumWhisperer

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 286
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2016, 03:59:29 PM »

1)  Yes, very short period of time.  5-10 seconds max.  Nets are never needed on the river.
2)  Bare hands only
3)  NO.  No fish should ever touch the rocks on shore.  Land it in shallow water, keep it off the rocks, always..
4)  Sure, 3 seconds..

Don't worry about what some grumpy fisherman say.  I saw the pic, no big deal. 

Tight lines..
« Last Edit: March 31, 2016, 04:10:12 PM by TheChumWhisperer »
Logged

BCfisherman97

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1019
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2016, 04:30:34 PM »

Nets are never needed on the river?
Logged

MetalAndFeathers

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 498
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2016, 04:32:39 PM »

If you are alone on the river it would be easier with a net no? With a friend it would be easy to tail a fish, but by yourself it wouldnt be very fun. I find a net practical if on a river by yourself.
Logged

Noahs Arc

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1198
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2016, 04:41:29 PM »

I've never needed a net on the river. But I wear appropriate footwear or waders to get in water with the fish.
Keep your hands wet, keep the fish in enough water so as their head and gills are under water, if you feel the need for a quick shot 5 seconds MAX. There is no reason for 10 seconds out. If you really like the fish and want more then one shot, give it a good drink before the second shot.
Laying a fish on wet rocks IS NOT good enough. Plus if the fish thrashes around it could take a blow to the head. Those hero shots guys post of a wild steelhead laying perfectly still in 1/2" of water is because that fisherman played that fish beyond exhaustion.
Don't take photos at the expense of hurting the fish. Sometimes it doesn't work out. And that's fine.
Logged

BCfisherman97

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1019
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2016, 04:42:54 PM »

I usually do not bring a net to a river. But I will use one if I know I am fishing a little bit of a tougher landing spot or if I am fishing bulls in the winter. Bulls are one heck of a slippery fish to tail and I don't want to keep them out of the water too long when its cold.
If I am fence posting in a spot and fishing for coho off of some boulders then I will go net any hatch fish but going after a species that you will be landing 15+ a day will just get annoying to constantly pull a net out.
Logged

DanL

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 669
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2016, 05:48:46 PM »

IMHO nets are actually a better practice as 1) you can almost always end the fight quicker without having to exhaust it enough to tail and 2) you can allow the fish to recover in deeper water without having to try and control it at all times.

Having said that carrying a net around is quite the PITA and unless I am planning on fence-posting a spot I dont generally carry one anymore. Fabrill makes a foldable one that I quite liked until I left it behind somewhere...
Logged

losos

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 233
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2016, 06:11:21 PM »

What kind of fish we are talking about?
For example rainbow if bleeding will be dead within seconds no matter how carefully is handled.
I remember reading scientific article from the link provided on this site that no matter how carefully you release salmon it will die within three hours.
Logged

hrenya

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 403
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2016, 06:41:36 PM »

What kind of fish we are talking about?
For example rainbow if bleeding will be dead within seconds no matter how carefully is handled.
I remember reading scientific article from the link provided on this site that no matter how carefully you release salmon it will die within three hours.
we don't discuss bleeding ones ...
Logged

Noahs Arc

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1198
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2016, 06:53:02 PM »

What kind of fish we are talking about?
For example rainbow if bleeding will be dead within seconds no matter how carefully is handled.
I remember reading scientific article from the link provided on this site that no matter how carefully you release salmon it will die within three hours.

You're trying to tell me, every salmon released dies within 3 hours?

You've never caught salmon with broken off hooks in their throats?

What about a steelhead in the upper chilliwack. I've seen fish up there with multiple wounds in their mouths from being hooked repeatedly.

Logged

Noahs Arc

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1198
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2016, 06:57:05 PM »

we don't discuss bleeding ones ...

This ones always a hot topic. If the fish is open for retention, then keep it. Of course it's probably going to die.
If it's not, then you have to send it on its way and give it every chance to live you can. Just because it's bleeding doesn't mean you can mishandle and drag it up on the beach. that's just nonsense.
Logged

wizard

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 276
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2016, 06:58:05 PM »

No doubt, you see all too often folks with very poor handling skills weather it's sturgeon, steelhead, stillwater trout or salmon.  Seems a lot of folks are putting themselves, (I'm not saying you are, hrenya) or the need for the hero shot ahead of the well being of the fish. And have seen ridiculous fish handling skills without them even taking a picture also.

If you keep the fishes well being and respect ahead of yourself, rarely will problems occur.  Seen reputable guides keep sturgeon in 2 inches of water for 15 minutes taking dozens of pictures and have seen guys on lakes keep the fish in the boat for far too long, sometimes literally minutes, before release more often then I'd like...it is ultra frustrating to have to witness it and if you do witness someone mishandling fish, politely go over to them, respectfully voice your concern and hope they do better next time, that is about all we can do.  But before everything the respect for the fish must come first above anything else including the coveted hero shot. 

As some have displayed here, it is possible to get that nice shot and have the utmost respect for the fish at the same time how ever it can sometimes be a fine line as some's standards for common sense etiquette can differ greatly. Just be mindful of the fish when handling, they can't breathe out of water and doesn't take long for the damage to be irreversible.
Logged

DanL

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 669
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2016, 06:59:24 PM »

I asked to delete my report post

Please reconsider leaving it up? It's a good report and dont let the nay-sayers and second guessers discourage you from posting pics. I thought it was more than fine and your explanation of it cleared it right up IMHO.
Logged

dobrolub

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 390
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2016, 07:13:40 PM »

Just don't post pics :) Enjoy the waters quietly. Quiet gets quieter.
Logged

Noahs Arc

  • Old Timer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1198
Re: C&R fish handling
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2016, 07:26:24 PM »

 ;) nailed it.
Logged