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[hrenya]

I was wondering if there is a knot kinda like eggloop , but not around the eye of the hook , but on main line , so it can slide and have a loop in it .
Does this even exist ?! or even without sliding but about 2 inches above the hook ...

[Knnn]

Not sure about a sliding knot, but the non-slip loop knot is probably what you are looking for.  Used to give flies/chironomids more action in the water.

Instructions and video here:

http://howtoflyfish.orvis.com/fly-fishing-knots/non-slip-mono-loop-video

[fishingwithegg2]

What Knnn said.

Alternatively, you use a perfection loop:
https://youtu.be/zyJgR70n1kc

[hrenya]

thank a lot , but that's not what I really look for .
my bud showed me knot he is using as a bobber stopper on his main line , so  I was wondering if its possible to use same idea but with some kinda loop in it for bait , so its above the hook . its pretty much not hook to line connection , but line to line . I saw something similar in flyfishing book , but I dunno the name of that . idea is I want my bait above the hook couple inches if its possible . thanks

[Fish or cut bait.]

WHY?
You could make a knot to that, but why?

[hrenya]

cuz I saw how bad some fish can be hooked if you use bait right on the hook , including swallowing it
I wanna try to avoid that by setting a hook proper and not to wait until fish swallows it

[Every Day]

The knot used to do the bobber stops is a nail knot. You could probably do some sort of noose knot on the tag part of the nail knot if you wanted.

[hrenya]

The knot used to do the bobber stops is a nail knot. You could probably do some sort of noose knot on the tag part of the nail knot if you wanted.

!!! thanks , that's I guess what I`ve been looking for ...

also if you don't mind I have 2 questions , after  looking your pics and posts , whats better location for bait for dollys : 1) above the hook , 2) on the hook , 3) below the hook , keeping in mind that its c&r

ty in advance ...

[Every Day]

!!! thanks , that's I guess what I`ve been looking for ...

also if you don't mind I have 2 questions , after  looking your pics and posts , whats better location for bait for dollys : 1) above the hook , 2) on the hook , 3) below the hook , keeping in mind that its c&r

ty in advance ...

I can't say I've ever used bait for dollies. I've only ever caught them on spoons and flies, and the odd one with pink worms or jigs as bycatch.

If I had to guess, I'd say above the hook like you want to. They are predatory and swallow everything. If you use bait, I'm not sure it'll be possible to stop deep hookings. Fast hook sets are key and are probably the most important thing to stop deep hookups.

[hrenya]

I can't say I've ever used bait for dollies. I've only ever caught them on spoons and flies, and the odd one with pink worms or jigs as bycatch.

If I had to guess, I'd say above the hook like you want to. They are predatory and swallow everything. If you use bait, I'm not sure it'll be possible to stop deep hookings. Fast hook sets are key and are probably the most important thing to stop deep hookups.

that's exactly why I want to keep my bait above , fast hook sets are the key as well ,  but sometimes **** happens , so u suggest to stick with above as I was trying to do ... thanks a lot for your opinion ....

[DanL]

Never tried it but if you want to keep your bait some distance away from the hook what about a double egg loop where there are two hooks tied in tandem.

Ie: http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=337821

Put your bait in the front hook which would have the point cut off at the bend leaving only the shank to comply with the regs.

Or you can cut the point off the trailing hook so the bait trails the hook like in a carp rig. I have no idea which way would result in fewer deep hooks. Downside either way is you wont be able to easily adjust the spacing without retying the whole thing.

[hrenya]

Never tried it but if you want to keep your bait some distance away from the hook what about a double egg loop where there are two hooks tied in tandem.

Ie: http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=337821

Put your bait in the front hook which would have the point cut off at the bend leaving only the shank to comply with the regs.

Or you can cut the point off the trailing hook so the bait trails the hook like in a carp rig. I have no idea which way would result in fewer deep hooks. Downside either way is you wont be able to easily adjust the spacing without retying the whole thing.

I try to avoid 2 hooks unless im bar fishing in Richmond ...

[DanL]

I try to avoid 2 hooks unless im bar fishing in Richmond ...

Put your bait in the front hook which would have the point cut off at the bend leaving only the shank to comply with the regs.

Its not a hook if its only a shank.

[Damien]

You could try a Rapala knot and instead of leaving a centimeter of loop, you could use it to cinch bait down onto the eye of the hook?

[Knnn]

Swing flies or spoons and deep hook sets are less likely, particularly with spoons if you swap out the original large hooks with a smaller size 2-4 trailing hook attached via braid or multiple split rings.

Alternatively try trout beads or Jensen type eggs pegged 1.5 to 2 inches above a small hook.

What other bait were you considering, something like a small roe bag in the Fraser where clarity probably precludes flys and spoons?  May be try attaching a small snap swivel ~1.5-2 inches above the hook and pass the snap swivel through the bunched up bit of the roe bag?  With a take the hook is more likely to set in the outside or around the lips.

Always hold the rod and never leave it unattended on a rest?