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[Sandman]

If you read the Fisheries Notice itself, it is clear they reference the same markers as the other species, so not sure why they chose to use "9 mile" for the pinks only.

From FN 679:

Waters:  Cheakamus River, Mamquam River downstream of the CN rail bridge; and
the Squamish River downstream of the fishing boundary signs at the powerline
crossing approximately 1.5 km upstream of the confluence with the Cheakamus
River.

[fic]

The problem on the 2015 brood was they got severely impacted by 5 major gravel moving events when the eggs were in the gravel. A monitoring program on the Cheakamus estimated only 20% of what they had been catching on previous brood years. The returning fish are the results of those floods.

I wonder if the Fraser pinks were also adversely affected by these gravel moving floods.  If not, then in theory we could still expect a decent return on the Fraser.

[fic]

The seals know where the sockeye buffet is on the Fraser:

http://www.psc.org/TestFish/Daily.PDF

<Cottonwood GN> Gilled vs. Tangled: Sock Adult: 3 (0).  A lot of debris and moderate traffic. 3 seals observed,
actively taking fish from net.
<Whonnock GN> Gilled vs. Tangled: No Catch.  Up to 3 seals observed actively taking fish.

[Ambassador]

9 Mile is the power line crossing the Squamish River about 2 km upstream from the Cheakamus River - Squamish River confluence. 9 Mile  gets it's name from the old 9 Mile logging road signs on the road to the upper Squamish which was 9 miles from the log dump on the Squamish estuary. This is also a prominent native netting site of the Lewis family. This is a well known landmark for all of the old Squamish anglers but not so much for all of the newbies.

The pink salmon angling on the Mamquam and Cheakamus River was closed on Aug 1st as per the recommendation of the Squamish Sport Fish Advisory board at the March 2017 meeting. This was proposed to try and stop the gong show which had transpired on these two rivers as pink spawning time approached. The first pinks generally start spawning by mid August.


They might be Squamish fish as most pinks come into the fraser in sept.   4 years ago the seine boats came to howe sound after about 40 yrs of no fishing, is this the reason for the down trend ?

 In a nut shell ...no. Both in 2013 and 2015 there was a very large spawning escapement after the fishery. The problem on the 2015 brood was they got severely impacted by 5 major gravel moving events when the eggs were in the gravel. A monitoring program on the Cheakamus estimated only 20% of what they had been catching on previous brood years. The returning fish are the results of those floods.

Thanks for all the info! I guess I'm somewhere between old Squamish angler and newbie - now I know

I wonder if the Fraser pinks were also adversely affected by these gravel moving floods.  If not, then in theory we could still expect a decent return on the Fraser.

No - too far away from the Fraser to make any difference. I believe the "gravel moving floods" that BKK speaks of are the rock/mudslides that wiped out many of their redds that fall. After the bigger slides - looking out over the mouth of the Squamish you could a LOT of muddy water and debris - but most settled within a couple km. My last day fishing Pinks in August 2015 started out fine - beautiful mildly silty water - then all of a sudden turned mocha brown with tons of debris along with it.

[MetalAndFeathers]

If you are wondering about the fishing, its good in the AM. Few people are really dialed in though. (25+ hookups)

[243Pete]

Squamish looked preeeettttyyy milky/ murky today, yesterday you could wade out to about hip level and see bottom but today you can't see more than a foot.

[wildmanyeah]

Squamish looked preeeettttyyy milky/ murky today, yesterday you could wade out to about hip level and see bottom but today you can't see more than a foot.

Lots more fish in howe sound, reports from guides in the salt now catching them

[Drewhill]

Very slow still. Not many hookups the last few days which is pretty surprising.

[243Pete]

Lots more fish in howe sound, reports from guides in the salt now catching them

That is good to hear, hopefully the fish are just late and we get some stellar days out on the ocean.
But a friend who fished at Ambleside on Sunday and another friend who fished at Furry on Monday said they saw only a few fish being pulled out. Hopefully next week will be fun but I will avoid going out on Monday as it's the long BC weekend.... PREPARE THE GONG!!!!

[badboi]

Can someone post a google map location for the 9mile marker?

Can't find it easily.

[fic]

Can someone post a google map location for the 9mile marker?

Can't find it easily.

Somewhere close to here, based on bkk's description. Google coordinates should be added to the Fishery Notices.

49.786618, -123.185933

[fic]

More Pinks are coming from Area 12 Seine Tests:

30-July-17  4,880
31-July-17  7,085
01-Aug-17  3,364
02-Aug-17  3,025
03-Aug-17  6,070

[Ambassador]

More Pinks are coming from Area 12 Seine Tests:

30-July-17  4,880
31-July-17  7,085
01-Aug-17  3,364
02-Aug-17  3,025
03-Aug-17  6,070

24,000 more fish that will be sold off and not return to rivers to spawn or possibly be caught by recreational fishermen.

[Noahs Arc]

24,000 more fish that will be sold off and not return to rivers to spawn or possibly be caught by recreational fishermen.

So with your logic, you want them to not do any test sets, guess the numbers returning, AND have an opening for the sporties?

[Ambassador]

So with your logic, you want them to not do any test sets, guess the numbers returning, AND have an opening for the sporties?

Ah that was me being a bit of a dreamer that - in the age of technology we live in - there ought to be a better way to get a good count or overall estimate of the runs without having to harvest one or more large schools of fish per day. I'm sure the DFO has it all figured out.