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[RalphH]

pardon me? 

If you think next weekend is the best part of the run you are mistake.

Childish whining won't open the river any sooner.

[DanL]

Fraser test fisheries for pinks usually dont start to really increase until the first week of Sept. It's really only in the last few days this year's numbers can be even considered anything other than basically zero.

If they decide to open it after Labour Day there is still plenty of time to catch the bulk of the run.

[RalphH]

currently the Fraser River provision estimate for commercial fisheries that have started in US waters is 3.8 million.

We may get a run size projection on Tuesday but my guess it will be less than 6 million.

[wildmanyeah]

currently the Fraser River provision estimate for commercial fisheries that have started in US waters is 3.8 million.

We may get a run size projection on Tuesday but my guess it will be less than 6 million.

Test fishery catches of pink salmon in the two approach areas have been
fluctuating at lower levels in recent days consistent with the previous
indications that the return of Fraser pink salmon is well below the p50
forecast of 8.7 million however, it remains too early to adopt a formal run
size change as the median 50% run timing date is August 28. For fisheries
planning purposes the Panel used a conservative run size of 3.8 million Fraser
pink salmon for planning US fisheries during the later portion of this week.

The most recent pink stock identification samples analyzed for Areas 12 and 20
purse seine test fisheries indicate Fraser origin pink salmon comprise 51% and
68%, respectively. Based on the most recent purse seine test catches the
estimated diversion rate through Johnstone Strait for Fraser pink salmon has
decreased to 37% compared to the historical median of 50%. Run size and timing
updates for Fraser pinks are likely to be made in the coming weeks.

[fic]

Even at 3.8 million it is not as bad as the Squamish pink collapse this season. Richmond might be tough at times but around Mission it won't be too bad.

[RalphH]

Even at 3.8 million it is not as bad as the Squamish pink collapse this season. Richmond might be tough at times but around Mission it won't be too bad.

depends on how many of those 3.8 million make it into the Fraser. At one time I read 3 million was considered the minimum escapement. Seven million was considered the desirable escapement. If the commercial catch is considerable and if the FN folks want to conduct their roe fishery there could be no much left for a sport allocation.

[fic]

Comparing the last 6 days between the 2015 vs 2017 tests on the Fraser, we are actually ahead than last pink season which is estimated to be 6 million.  So the 8 million pre-season estimate is still looking possible.

      Whonnock      
20-Aug-15  5          20-Aug-17 1    
21-Aug-15  6          21-Aug-17  14   
22-Aug-15  12          22-Aug-17  19    
23-Aug-15 11          23-Aug-17 9    
24-Aug-15 11          24-Aug-17 39    
25-Aug-15  9          25-Aug-17  61    
            
      Cotton Wood      
            
20-Aug-15  1          20-Aug-17 12   
21-Aug-15  8         21-Aug-17  0   
22-Aug-15  6         22-Aug-17  1   
23-Aug-15 0         23-Aug-17 11   
24-Aug-15 3         24-Aug-17 11   
25-Aug-15  4         25-Aug-17  27   

The Area 12 and Area 20 Seine is lower in 2017 compared to 2015, so maybe they are concerned about that.

[RalphH]

yes well again we have to wait and see. The in season estimate is usually based on Purse seine tests in the approaches. Right now, Area 12 and 20 Seine combined is 93,000. For 2015 it was 228,000 for the same date.  But that has to factor in the % of fish that are Fraser river origin caught in those fisheries. As I have mentioned above the Campbell had a huge return then which I'd expect travel through Area 12. The return there is not so big this cycle.

However most pinks runs up and down the cost right to Alaska have tanked.

Lets hope we get a decent return.

[Tangles]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1521202561278512

Squamish pinks from the clay pit anybody? Get em while they last.

[fic]

The Fraser Test Nets Continue to show slightly above par from 2015 run.  Area 12/20 is fluctuating.  Seems like to me the Fraser Pinks are doing well while other pink runs coming from Area 12/20 may not be.

      Whonnock     
20-Aug-15  5          20-Aug-17 1   
21-Aug-15  6          21-Aug-17  14   
22-Aug-15  12          22-Aug-17  19   
23-Aug-15 11          23-Aug-17 9   
24-Aug-15 11          24-Aug-17 39   
25-Aug-15  9          25-Aug-17  61   
26-Aug-15  28          26-Aug-17  20   
27-Aug-15  31          27-Aug-17  28   
           
      Cotton Wood     
           
20-Aug-15  1          20-Aug-17 12   
21-Aug-15  8         21-Aug-17  0   
22-Aug-15  6         22-Aug-17  1   
23-Aug-15 0         23-Aug-17 11   
24-Aug-15 3         24-Aug-17 11   
25-Aug-15  4         25-Aug-17  27   
26-Aug-15  1         26-Aug-17  10   
27-Aug-15  5         27-Aug-17  8   

[Easywater]

Dropped by the river on Saturday afternoon for a look.

Went near the tunnel around low tide.
Saw a few pinks jumping but didn't stay around for the whole tide shift.
(when they are usually more active on the surface).

Unfortunately, there were a few people fishing for pinks there.

[Easywater]

If the commercial catch is considerable and if the FN folks want to conduct their roe fishery there could be no much left for a sport allocation.

Last season, the fishing was good for opening day in the river.
Regular commercial net fishing killed it after that.

[fic]

Last season, the fishing was good for opening day in the river.
Regular commercial net fishing killed it after that.

The coho fishing was also poor right after openings on the Fraser.

[Jk47]

We fished for Sturgeon off shore near dump bar yesterday through the entire high tide change and maybe saw 1 or 2 Pinks roll the entire time (don't even know if they were pinks for sure). Saw 5-10 commercial boats cruise past and at least 1 with nets in the water (test fishery?)

[Jk47]

How's the Squamish been? Anyone know?  Thinking of heading up in the a.m. but not if it's completely died off...