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[BBarley]

Bright side is that an abrupt closure to everything but the FN should mean minimal interception for the coastal tributaries fish currently en route.

[wildmanyeah]

The 2018 run was never going to be strong because of marine survival rates they knew this before hand.  Who knows if the super trawlers out in international waters found the adams run or not.

The summer run came in strong and that's a positive note something that we should all be thankful about. 

The 2017 pink run, Steelhead and others were strong indicators that marine survival rates had crashed. I left Coho and Chinook out of my analysis because some runs stay in the salish sea and the salish sea has different trends then runs that go out to alaska.

Next years pink run will indicate if ocean conditions have changed.

Enjoy the long weekend and the fish! some 10 pound sockeye to be had out their

[RalphH]

Good points WMY. Ocean survival, habitat capacity plus intra and inter-species competition are major determinates of productivity. Simply putting spawners in large numbers on the redds, in most cases is not the only factor that matters

[marshal]

Round 2 for sockeye rec opening a possibility (when the late runs are coming in en mass)?

[Tangles]

It is a possibility ... 4 years from now

[marshal]

I see dfo is opening the late run fish holding in the Straight to an on-going (no end date) seine net onslaught, starting tomorrow (Sept. 12th).  Let's hope this doesn't turn into a regret.  So far, they've allowed 58% of the total estimated return to be put on ice, which is a higher ratio than the final numbers in 2010, 2011, or 2014....

[wildmanyeah]

ITQ's are quota fisheries.  Each boat is given an individual quota

In 2018, Area B seine Fraser River Sockeye harvest opportunities will be
managed as an Individual Transferable Quota (ITQ) demonstration fishery and
will be based on available commercial TAC. Sufficient quota is required to
participate in any fishery opening listed below.

At this time the Area B cumulative individual quota in pieces for each Area B
licence is increased to 12,300 Sockeye salmon based on a share of 0.28411% and
a commercial TAC of 4,329,272 Sockeye.  Each individual quota amount (in
pieces) will change if the available commercial TAC changes in-season and is
cumulative for the season.  These commercial TACs are for the purpose of
calculating the individual quota amounts for Area B and H vessels only.  The
vessel master must account for any fish caught to date and any reallocation
made.
 
Area 29:

Seines open to fishing from 06:00 hours until 21:00 hours daily starting
Wednesday, September 12 until further notice in Subareas 29-3, 29-4, 29-6, and
29-10 in waters no shallower than 45 metres (approximately 27 fathoms). Minimum
bunt mesh size 70 mm.  The use of power skiffs is permitted.

[Hike_and_fish]

It's a sad day for democracy when FN and commercial can still harvest fish but Joe sixpack can not.

Not like I care to add to my bloated freezer. I am simply pointing out the fact that its f!ucked

[Robert_G]

Just when you think things have become as stupid as possible...they find a way to get stupider. The seiners are out and the sporties aren't allowed to take another 2000 fish.....un freaking believable.

[RalphH]

earth to semi-literate forms of life!

1) Every sentient creature knows that after DFO refused to establish a sensible harvest structure on it's own, that close to 40 years ago the courts established that the sport sector comes last!

2) Sockeye are still open to sport retention in the Salish Sea in some parts of area 28 and 29.

[BBarley]

RIP Fraser Sockeye

[marshal]

Thanks for clarifying the numbers, WMY.
If I understand what the opening info is saying, Area B (seine) and H (troll) in areas 18 and 29 combined have a limit of moving the total Cdn commercial TAC up to 4.3M fish.  The last weekly report shows it at 2.5M, so they are authorized to bring in another 1.8M fish total....?

[Hike_and_fish]

Thanks for clarifying the numbers, WMY.
If I understand what the opening info is saying, Area B (seine) and H (troll) in areas 18 and 29 combined have a limit of moving the total Cdn commercial TAC up to 4.3M fish.  The last weekly report shows it at 2.5M, so they are authorized to bring in another 1.8M fish total....?

I believe so. Hydroacoustic data shows just over 4 million have passed thru mission. That seems low to me.

[RalphH]

the last weekly report stated the number of fish still holding off the mouth of the Fraser was between about 2 million and 6.5 million. The large majority of the late run has not passed Mission.

[DanL]

What do you think the number of fish is ....? Just throw a number out there! I'd bet money its less than 1% probably closer to .5 %

Does anyone have an estimate on what sporty's harvest?  Aside from extrapolations, is there any estimate from the powers that be?

I think I found an answer, or at least a rough estimate. Looking at the PSC page for the Fraser River panel, there is an annual report for the 2014 sockeye season, but it's dated from just a few months ago.

https://www.psc.org/publications/annual-reports/fraser-river-panel/

In appendix H, there is a table that breaks down the total take, and what was allocated to each sector (commercial, First Nations, & non-commercial).



I didnt read close enough to see their methods so no comment on the accuracy of these numbers but if we take it all at face value, the average take of each sector by % total catch of the last 4 sockeye cycles breaks down to:

	%TAC
Commercial	72.8
First Nations	23.0
Non-Commercial	4.2

Take it for what it's worth.