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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #540 on: September 21, 2018, 11:18:25 AM »

Except for one day in there where the numbers plummeted (Sept 20: dropped to 24k from 145k the day prior).... odd....
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #541 on: September 21, 2018, 08:21:15 PM »

Including fish mortality and those taken in fisheries, Lapointe expects some 750,000 late-run sockeye will make it to their Adams River spawning grounds, a number similar to the 2014 dominant year.


https://www.revelstokereview.com/news/race-is-on-for-shuswap-late-run-sockeye-salmon/
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #542 on: September 21, 2018, 08:49:29 PM »

Adding to '06 and '14.... Escapements to spawning ground:
- 2010: 13.1 million (47% of final run estimate)
- 2011:   2.6 million (51% of final run estimate)
- 2014:   5.9 million (29% of final run estimate)

Escapement past Mission:
- 2010:      14.3 million (51% of final run estimate) (note: report stated 16 million, but this was a mgmt decision to align with other HA counts further upstream)
- 2011:        3.9 million (76% of final run estimate)
- 2014:      10.1 million (50% of final run estimate)... looks like alot of fish lost upstream of Mission in '14 (water volume / temp.?)
- 2018 YTD: 3.8 million (48% of all accounted, as of Sept. 07/18) (quantity past Mission + total marine TAC, )

Total all TAC:
- 2010:      13.6 million (49% of final run estimate)
- 2011:        2.1 million (41% of final run estimate)
- 2014:      11.2 million (56% of final run estimate)
- 2018 YTD: 4.7 million (60% of all accounted, as of Sept. 07/18) (total all TAC + quantity past Mission (less 762k upstream catch))

From the latest PSC update, seems like the numbers are trending in the right direction (IMO)....
Escapement past Mission:
- 2018 YTD: 4.8 million (50% of all* accounted, as of Sept. 21/18) (*all=quantity past Mission + total marine TAC)

Total all TAC:
- 2018 YTD: 5.3 million (57% of all^ accounted, as of Sept. 07/18) (^all=total all TAC + quantity past Mission (less 867k upstream catch))
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #543 on: September 21, 2018, 09:00:55 PM »

Am I misreading today's commercial fishery notice for purse seine (FN1048-COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Seine - Area B - Area 29).... it looks like they are 'being read the riot act' by DFO.... wrist slapping due to some noncompliance out there....?
https://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=214405&ID=all
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #544 on: September 21, 2018, 09:36:02 PM »

Am I misreading today's commercial fishery notice for purse seine (FN1048-COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Seine - Area B - Area 29).... it looks like they are 'being read the riot act' by DFO.... wrist slapping due to some noncompliance out there....?
https://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=214405&ID=all

Hardly. It's tough for DFO to slap around Jimmy and his feet. He has deep pockets after all
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #545 on: September 21, 2018, 09:39:41 PM »

Aboriginal economic sockeye opening in river as well. Beach seines for sockeye so they can separate out the coho and steelhead. Yeahhhh right what a joke

Rip coho and steelhead
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #546 on: September 21, 2018, 11:11:38 PM »

Hardly. It's tough for DFO to slap around Jimmy and his feet. He has deep pockets after all
.. just a love letter then?  ;) Seems kinda disciplinary in nature to me....
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #547 on: September 22, 2018, 12:29:16 AM »

Aboriginal economic sockeye opening in river as well. Beach seines for sockeye so they can separate out the coho and steelhead. Yeahhhh right what a joke

Rip coho and steelhead

Good thing there's a bait ban on the cap to make up for this
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #548 on: September 22, 2018, 08:06:52 AM »

I am just blown away. The rec sector is closed for retention of Sockeye in the fraser why ? To prevent snagging of Sreelhead and Coho ? Seems legit. Except for when we had the opening and saw a FN boat with 38 Springs on board. I can remeber that band handing them out like candy to every non FN on Moutain bar for 3 days every day. Am I to assume that that nonsense doesnt apply to Coho or Steelhead ? Yeah..... I'm sure they'll be tossing those dead fish right back into the Fraser.

Jimmy's boats have the right to fish for profit and the common man cant ? There's something wrong here.
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #549 on: September 22, 2018, 08:17:13 AM »

Aboriginal economic sockeye opening in river as well. Beach seines for sockeye so they can separate out the coho and steelhead. Yeahhhh right what a joke

Rip coho and steelhead

...you should go watch then to see 1) if they get any coho or steelhead in the seine 2) what they do with them

have a chat with the DFO observers on site and see what they say.

They have been opening beach seines in Sept and October for years.
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #550 on: September 22, 2018, 08:24:59 AM »

for those interested the sports catch in the fraser was 67,000.   
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #551 on: September 22, 2018, 08:33:32 AM »

I am just blown away. The rec sector is closed for retention of Sockeye in the fraser why ? To prevent snagging of Sreelhead and Coho ? Seems legit. Except for when we had the opening and saw a FN boat with 38 Springs on board. I can remeber that band handing them out like candy to every non FN on Moutain bar for 3 days every day. Am I to assume that that nonsense doesnt apply to Coho or Steelhead ? Yeah..... I'm sure they'll be tossing those dead fish right back into the Fraser.

Jimmy's boats have the right to fish for profit and the common man cant ? There's something wrong here.

Get used to it...this is the new normal. Tax paying citizens bow down to special interest groups...
No other demographic gets screwed as much as the middleclass.
I wonder who they'll ask for tax money when the day comes where the middle class no longer exists.
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #552 on: September 22, 2018, 08:53:21 AM »

gee Rob you sound like an economic expert! What exactly is the 'middle class'?
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #553 on: September 22, 2018, 09:02:56 AM »

for those interested the sports catch in the fraser was 67,000.

Unbelievable.
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Re: 2018 Fraser River Sockeye Notices
« Reply #554 on: September 22, 2018, 09:11:49 AM »

for those interested the sports catch in the fraser was 67,000.

they are not reporting the marine (tidal) catch as yet.
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