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Hike_and_fish

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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #60 on: July 27, 2020, 08:44:40 AM »

Seeing as most 70+ percent  of the Chinook run should be in and or winding down... what’s the target species through august ? Is it not possible for the fn people to create a separate fishery off the sumas with a hatchery ? Surely they can use their licence fees and find the resources ! There’s a few  creeks and sections  connected to the sumas that have proved valuable spawning habitat  for For chum and coho alike . Why not create and mange their own fishery ....

That would involve money. Where would it come from ?
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #61 on: July 27, 2020, 12:03:26 PM »

I think Chris will be right, not a lot of effort will go into this now, but it's great practice for later.


are we going to be paying them to be netting in the fall??


"the Lower Fraser Fisheries Alliance Society will receive approximately $679,000 over four years to contribute to an improved understanding of stock status and trends through the development of passive integrated transponder tag mark-recapture techniques for hatchery Coho salmon in the Chilliwack River during spawning migration. The infrastructure developed for this project will be used to inform future work on stock level studies of Fraser salmon"
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #62 on: July 27, 2020, 04:52:09 PM »


are we going to be paying them to be netting in the fall??


"the Lower Fraser Fisheries Alliance Society will receive approximately $679,000 over four years to contribute to an improved understanding of stock status and trends through the development of passive integrated transponder tag mark-recapture techniques for hatchery Coho salmon in the Chilliwack River during spawning migration. The infrastructure developed for this project will be used to inform future work on stock level studies of Fraser salmon"

I will never fish fresh water salmon in a Fraser trib if they net the Chilliwack. I won't even buy a salmon license.
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #63 on: July 29, 2020, 01:01:46 PM »

There are several First Nation FSC openings for the Chilliwack/Vedder and Chehalis River in the next week or so which anglers should be aware of.

Sts’ailes and Scowlitz First Nation and Fisheries and Oceans Canada have agreed to an opening on the Chehalis River commencing Thursday July 30th to Wednesday August 5th (daily). 

· Time: Daylight hours only 0600 hours to 2100 hours
· Gear: Hook and Line, Spear or gaff
· Area: Those waters below the Canyon Pool to the confluence of the Chehalis River at the Harrison River
· Target Species:  Chinook (retention)
· By Catch Species: Summer Run Steelhead (Non Retention) No other Salmon expected at this time
· Monitoring:  Sts’ailes will provide a monitor for the FSC fishery and also collect recreational creel data
· Enforcement: C&P and RCMP have both been involved in supporting the fishery and the monitors and will have presence on the fishery.
· Collaborative work is being designed to enhanced data collection (DNA, CWT, time of encounters, etc).
· Ongoing dialogue between DFO, First Nation and the Recreational community.
· Expectation is to continue to plan similar fisheries moving forward, including presence of RCMP and DFO C & P.
· The fisheries will be monitored and reported on daily and all catch reports submitted 24 hours after the fishery is over.

Sumas First Nation and Fisheries and Oceans Canada have agreed to continue the fishery from the previous week.  There was an indication from Sumas regarding the fishery to be moved to weekdays after this opening with discussions to continue to scope out further opportunities after this weekend.
 
· Thursday July 30, 2020 - 12:00pm to Sunday August 2, 2020 - 9:00pm (81 hours total)
· Max 4 Set nets using 8” mesh or greater with a 3:1 hang ratio and is selective for chinook harvest
· Fisheries to take place in those waters from Kieth Wilson Bridge to the confluence of the Sumas into the Fraser
· Attendance of nets, as the nets are expected to be close proximity so that the vessels can access and check nets regularly.
· Chinook is the only species authorized to be retained all other species to be released.
· Collaborative work is being designed to enhanced data collection (DNA, CWT, time of encounters, etc).
· Ongoing dialogue between DFO, First Nation and the recreational community.
· Expectation is to continue to plan similar fisheries moving forward, including presence of RCMP and DFO C & P.
· The fisheries will be monitored and reported on daily and all catch reports submitted 24 hours after the fishery is over.

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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2020, 01:44:46 PM »

Hook and Line, Spear or gaff VS Net. Chilliwack wins.
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2020, 01:55:21 PM »

Does anyone have an update as to how many chinooks have been captured by these gillnets in the lower Vedder?  I have biked by them several times now and have seen no fish captured or any other activity.
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2020, 02:31:31 PM »

These openings make no sense other than the fact they are proving they can.
Summer steelhead bi-catch non retention? how do you release a summer when gaffed or speared? What does the province have to say about this? And why would they be non retention when you can actively harvest hatchery summers legally?
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #67 on: July 29, 2020, 05:35:58 PM »

......why specify hook and line..that is already allowed.....probably more chance of finding a gold nugget than spearing or gaffing a red in the lower chehalis this time of year ......just let them net the hatchery channel and get it over with....
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #68 on: July 29, 2020, 07:13:59 PM »

These openings make no sense other than the fact they are proving they can.
Summer steelhead bi-catch non retention? how do you release a summer when gaffed or speared? What does the province have to say about this? And why would they be non retention when you can actively harvest hatchery summers legally?

They won't care. The Summers in the Chehalis are viewed as invasive

I am just disappointed at how things are. The state of the Chehalis has never been so bad and yet here we go. Just wait, they'll be retaining the early run Chehalis lake Coho.
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #69 on: July 29, 2020, 08:22:15 PM »

Wow,they are really sticking it to us arent they.

This is B.S.
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #70 on: July 29, 2020, 09:34:08 PM »

......just realized their hook and line probably is not the same as what I  have to use...
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2020, 10:17:52 PM »

......just realized their hook and line probably is not the same as what I  have to use...

Yeah, add another two hooks, three barbs and some heavy weights into the mix.
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #72 on: August 08, 2020, 09:08:18 AM »

......any results for these openings...?
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #73 on: August 19, 2020, 01:09:11 PM »

FYI

Seen this posted on FB "When the fraser is shut down be prepared to have the netting switch over to places like the chehalis and Vedder for excess hatchery stocks.
The fsc fishery comes after conservation before sport fishing.The negotiations are already going on to have net fisheries this fall all the way up the Vedder to the crossing for 5 different Nations."

Only posting this rumor as i've also heard similar stuff from reliable sources.  The rumor I heard of late tho is Harrison,Sumas and Stolo have not been able to come to an agreement yet.
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Re: Sumas River First Nation chinook salmon net opening
« Reply #74 on: August 19, 2020, 06:03:43 PM »

Well that will be the end of cultas sockeye.
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