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[JBB]

What are the anticipated dates for the arrival of pinks to Furry Creek , Langley bars, Squamish river ? Any info would be appreciated

[Rodney]

Well, based on pre-season forecasts, I would not be expecting openings at this point. First update on Fraser River pink salmon was released yesterday, and the pre-season forecast at the moment is 3 million fish.

[fic]

Looking at the PSC Test Fisheries in Area 12 so far, they have netted more pinks than 2017 and 2019. 

https://www.psc.org/publications/fraser-panel-in-season-information/test-fishing-results/

Also 4 Pinks per day In Campbell. These are hatchery pinks mostly?

FN0676-Recreational - Salmon - Pink and Coho - Region 1 - Campbell and Quinsam Rivers - Angling opportunities effective July 15 (Pink) and October 1 (Coho)

Quinsam River:

- Effective 00:01 hours July 15 until 23:59 hours September 15: Four (4) Pink per day

Campbell River (downstream of the confluence with the Quinsam River), and Quinsam River:

- Effective 00:01 hours October 1 until 23:59 hours December 31, four (4) Coho per day, hatchery marked only, and only two (2) of which may be greater than 40 cm.

Reminder: Effective 00:01 hours August 1 until 23:59 hours October 31 - no f

[RalphH]

those won't be Fraser Pinks and are likely bound for some of the mainland inlets. The Fraser runs don't starting showing in numbers until the1st half of august with a peak towards the end of the month. The Squamish fish usually show anytime from now or the end of the month with fish in the river 10 to 14 days later. Returns were terrible in 2019 with most showing later than normal.

[sockeyed]

Region 2 now says "There is no fishing for salmon in Region 2 except for the opportunities listed in the table below".

Does this mean we are not allowed to fish Squamish river, even catch and release, unless there is an opening?

[Rodney]

Region 2 now says "There is no fishing for salmon in Region 2 except for the opportunities listed in the table below".

Does this mean we are not allowed to fish Squamish river, even catch and release, unless there is an opening?

That is correct, there are no salmon openings anymore unless retention is available in region 2.

[CohoJake]

That is correct, there are no salmon openings anymore unless retention is available in region 2.

Except this just hit my email:

 Category(s):
    RECREATIONAL - Salmon


    Fishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada

Subject: FN0684-RECREATIONAL -Salmon - Region 2: Pink Salmon (non-retention) opportunities on the Squamish River

Waters: Squamish River downstream of the fishing boundary signs at the powerline crossing approximately 1.5 km upstream of the confluence with the Cheakamus River.

Effective dates: Effective 00:01 hours July 15, 2021 to December 31, 2021, the daily limit for pink salmon is zero (0) per day (catch and release only).

Variations Order: 2021-RFQ-384 and 2021-RCT-385

[Rodney]

I spoke too soon haha... These people can't make up their mind.

https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=247530&ID=all

[fic]

Everybody will crowd the Vedder for pinks then

[psd1179]

Everybody will crowd the Vedder for pinks then

Not everybody obvious. only meat eaters.

[spoiler]

they are getting good numbers of Pinks off Sooke right now.
those are likely Fraser and tribs. fish.

[fic]

In 2019, they shut down Squamish retention in August after poor returns didn't support a retention fishery.  For the Fraser, they kept everybody off the pinks until 8 million plus migrated through the lower Fraser.  The wild card is that big land slide which may affect the returning numbers.   Hopefully the Fraser far exceeds the 3 million they are predicting. 

[RalphH]

The total PSC test catch for pinks is a whopping 42 fish of those 5 were caught at the San Juan location in Juan de fuca Strait. The rest were caught at Round Island east of Port Hardy. That doesn't add up to much of anything.

[wildmanyeah]

Some nice pinks starting to show up in Howe sound. Dont no how the return is yet but a few nice ones being caught.

[wildmanyeah]

In 2019, they shut down Squamish retention in August after poor returns didn't support a retention fishery.  For the Fraser, they kept everybody off the pinks until 8 million plus migrated through the lower Fraser.  The wild card is that big land slide which may affect the returning numbers.   Hopefully the Fraser far exceeds the 3 million they are predicting.

Its way to early to say anything about Fraser Pinks and Squamish pinks don't show up in any meaningful numbers in test fisheries.



we will see, i think people forget that 2017 pink return was one of the worst it recent times below 2 million, then it resulted in a 2019 return of 8+ million. 2021 is projected to be cupcakes but they also did not do some of the normal out migration counts in 2020 because of covid.  The forecast is highly uncertain.  We wont know anything much about the fraser pink return till mid to late august.  Area 12 and 20 pinks right now the DNA is not out but it will probably show that most are not fraser bound.  Even by early august area 12 catches will be mixed with fraser, puget sound and south coast stocks.