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Phronesis

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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #105 on: August 14, 2023, 02:58:49 PM »

Right now at FC, lost one and then nothing, 2 others got one each....wondering when it would peak?
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #106 on: August 14, 2023, 03:13:38 PM »

wondering when it would peak?

My estimate is that it will peak closer to the end of the month/beginning of Sept. 2021 was also late, with many fresh fish pushing well into September. I also remember a terrible August river season compared to previous ones but then September felt as good as always. Maybe it was the water clarity, numbers of fish, luck or all the above.


I was swinging on Mamquam bar again and it was even more quiet than last weekend, but there were plenty of anglers trying.  Still nice to get out, I hooked one during my 4h trip.  Perhaps I'll try again next weekend, I still have faith that they will show up in big numbers!

Thanks for the report. After my own "4-hour-for-one-hookup" session last week, I promised myself that I won't come back in 2-3 weeks. I'm glad I didn't! I'll probably go next weekend though. Hopefully we will have a better day!
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #107 on: August 14, 2023, 05:46:59 PM »

in past years FC peaked in early August and was pretty much done by about the 21st. It could be that the fish that spawn in the refugia that not as affected by high floods and gravel shifting arrive later than those that spawn in the mainstem.
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #108 on: August 14, 2023, 06:17:49 PM »

Thanks....looks like it varies each season.....a lot of people are reporting good number of pinks from bowen island/ point atkinson.....area 12 reported very high number of pinks recently....
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #109 on: August 14, 2023, 10:12:00 PM »

Ralphs ending estimate is pretty much bang on by my account within a few days.  2 years ago I had a few killer days 18-22nd'ish with up to double digits and then met a buddy on the 24th and nadda hooked and 2 schools seen.  Reading all the reports I feel like everything is 2 weeks behind but well who really knows unless you're out there fishing unlike myself who's full tilt working.  On the plus side I picked up a new addition to the stillwater fleet tonight, a 8ft Spratley pedestal with wheels
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #110 on: August 15, 2023, 09:13:03 AM »

In some previous run cycles, FC was very quiet but the Squamish was loaded with fish. It seems that most pinks in those cycles ran through Howe Sound on the opposite side of FC. So this may be another one of that. Hope not.  If Squamish is loaded with fish now and FC remains slow, then this may be the case.
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #111 on: August 15, 2023, 10:35:15 AM »

In some previous run cycles, FC was very quiet but the Squamish was loaded with fish. It seems that most pinks in those cycles ran through Howe Sound on the opposite side of FC. So this may be another one of that. Hope not.  If Squamish is loaded with fish now and FC remains slow, then this may be the case.

few people did mention that on FB, that might be the case since people on boat report good number of pinks in howe sound
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #112 on: August 15, 2023, 02:24:10 PM »

The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, August 15, to receive an update on the migration of Fraser
River sockeye and pink salmon and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River
watershed. It is currently estimated that 567,100 and 16,200 sockeye and pink salmon, respectively,
have passed the Mission hydroacoustics site. The Panel adopted an in-season run size of 8,575,000
pink salmon with an associated Area 20 timing of August 18.

Pink In-season Update
August 15, 2023
Current Trends
• Continue to see unprecedented high catches in marine test fisheries
• Low abundances of pinks observed in the river to-date
• Added cumulative CPUE as another piece of evidence that the run is exceeding the pre-season p75 (8.6M)
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #113 on: August 15, 2023, 03:24:21 PM »

According to this, there should be some Fraser Pink Openings.   Target is to have 6 Million Spawners.  Hopefully the Vedder pinks are in great shape, despite the floods.

https://frasersalmon.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2023-Forum-2-Day-2-FR-SK-and-PK-Escapement-Planning-Forum-2023-03-01.pdf

p10 p25 p50 p75 p90

forecast 3,247,000 4,389,000 6,135,000 8,575,000 11,591,000

escapement target 3,023,000 3,980,000 5,335,000 6,000,000 6,000,000

allowable ER 7% 9% 13% 30% 48%

Available Harvest (TF, US, CDN) 224,000 409,000 800,000 2,575,000 5,591,000
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #114 on: August 16, 2023, 01:37:56 PM »

there is this to consider. It might be part of the reason why the returns for the Fraser are looking good.

https://alexandramorton.typepad.com/alexandra_morton/2023/08/the-fish-are-talking-thank-you-trudeau-and-ministers.html
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #115 on: August 16, 2023, 02:22:33 PM »

In some previous run cycles, FC was very quiet but the Squamish was loaded with fish. It seems that most pinks in those cycles ran through Howe Sound on the opposite side of FC. So this may be another one of that. Hope not.  If Squamish is loaded with fish now and FC remains slow, then this may be the case.
Fishing can be very good on the west side of Howe Sound. Several cycles ago we were spin fishing from a boat in the area of Camp Potlach. The fish were rolling everywhere and all around the boat. We caught a limit for three of 12 fish in short order, then came across a young guy in a Sewell’s rental boat getting skunked. He was casting a lure with his rod, them retrieving the lure hand over hand. Turns out he had lost his reel handle! We gave him 4 fish to take home, then caught a replacement four fish for ourselves.

Never seen anything like it.


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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #116 on: August 16, 2023, 05:16:15 PM »

We gave him 4 fish to take home, then caught a replacement four fish for ourselves.



totally illegal! The 3 of you had already taken your limit and legally could not retain any further salmon of any species. A legal way would have been to lend him tackle.

The idea that the pinks alternatively travel down the north side of the sound comes up from time to time. They may but in years of poor returns I have talked to a few people who took a boat over to the Defense Islands and McNab Creek to try their luck. Unfortunately they didn't find anymore pinks on the other side.
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #117 on: August 16, 2023, 11:09:28 PM »

totally illegal! The 3 of you had already taken your limit and legally could not retain any further salmon of any species. A legal way would have been to lend him tackle.

In hindsight, you’re right.
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #118 on: August 18, 2023, 09:21:47 AM »

Fishing at Furry Creek was still dismal yesterday. It was worse from 2 weeks ago. So is the run over?
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Re: Furry Creek and Squamish Pinks 2023
« Reply #119 on: August 18, 2023, 11:52:10 AM »

hearing some big numbers being tossed around for fraser pink returns (10 million +), guess will have to wait and see
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