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[coastangler]

Yes and good observation! Another problem i have seen is people using fast sinking lines hang up in the rocks  a lot spending too much time freeing their gear, retying leaders and tying on new flies. Often these people are with guides. Are they incompetent?

For rivers, my go to tip on leaders is a clear intermediate. I only go heavier when I feel I need to and then I quarter it downstream. Casting across or downstream makes snagging a fish or snagging bottom much more likely, wastes your time and  can ruin your day.

BTW I never said I used a sinking line or tip at Furry creek.

Fully agree Ralph and yes sorry I did digressed a bit into river fishing for pinks as you mostly were talking about beach fishing where sink tips are rarely used. Completely agree with you and also my go-to tip for rivers is intermediate and only after using that or floating first, and determine that fish could sit on deeper or faster water, may move to a heavier tip. But this is almost never the case when pink salmon fishing in rivers, as they like to grab flies throughout the water column or even surface as you mentioned and they also like to sit on shallower water.

[Kever]

Question on keeping the fly in the upper 3ft of the river to avoid snagging:

I have a skagit shooting head and normally run about 9-12ft of T-series sinking head.  Can I run a shorter sink tip or would that screw up casting?  Thanks.

[RalphH]

something like this may do the trick

https://farbank.com/products/rio-10ft-intouch-replacement-tips

https://farbank.com/products/rio-15ft-intouch-replacement-tips

you can cut back the 15 foot 1.5ips to suit your casting. I use both floating and intermediate 15 foot tips on my lines though for some 15 feet is too long for use on a shorter rod such as switch rod or a Single handed rod.

As for using just a shorter tip - I've used 6 to 8ft tips on switch rods but it's going to depend on your rod and casting style.

Always keep in mind casting downstream at a smaller angle will make the tip and fly ride higher but that also depends on current speed.

[243Pete]

Question on keeping the fly in the upper 3ft of the river to avoid snagging:

I have a skagit shooting head and normally run about 9-12ft of T-series sinking head.  Can I run a shorter sink tip or would that screw up casting?  Thanks.

you can run a full floating MOW tip or an OPST commando floating tip in 110 grain (depends on fly size, distance and skagit weight)

[RalphH]

there are also rio mow tips with short (3 feet) of t-8 at the end of a floating section.

[Kever]

Thanks guys, good to know there are options. I'll head to my local tackle shop and check it out.

[Phronesis]

I saw some FB posts on people catching pinks off of bowen, any ideas when they usually show up at furry creek?
Also do they show up near ambleside?

[ynot]

should already be at furrey creek and ambelside in a good year.
we have a new fisheries minister  speaks only french.  better than the usual b.s. and double dutch we usually get.

[RalphH]

should already be at furrey creek and ambelside in a good year.
we have a new fisheries minister  speaks only french.  better than the usual b.s. and double dutch we usually get.

there is no requirement for any MP or Cabinet minister or even the PM to be fluent in both official languages. The House of Commons is a bi-lingual institution and each member can speak in English or French as they choose.  Diane Lebouthillier was previously the minister of National Revenue. She has been attending English " boot camps" for 5 years.

[chomperman]

Went to furry creek today. Can confirm I saw no one catching salmon and there were no salmon in the river, at least right at the mouth.

[Phronesis]

ah thanks for the update, hope you still had fun out........I plan to go next week, hopefully they show up by then....

[wildmanyeah]

Quite a Few Pinks being caught in area 20. So far it's about 30 to 40% more than 2021.  Some are Washington State Pinks though.

FisheryName   TripDate   VesselCount   SetCount   Effort   SockeyeAdultCaught   SockeyeJackCaught   PinkCaught

Area 20 - San Juan Sockeye Gillnet   7/10/2023   2   4   259.95   57   0   5
Area 20 - San Juan Sockeye Gillnet   7/11/2023   2   4   261.9   129   0   14
Area 20 - San Juan Sockeye Gillnet   7/12/2023   2   4   250.05   90   0   34
Area 20 - San Juan Sockeye Gillnet   7/13/2023   2   4   246.9   39   0   9
Area 20 - San Juan Sockeye Gillnet   7/14/2023   2   4   251.4   48   0   31
Area 20 - San Juan Sockeye Gillnet   7/15/2023   2   4   255.3   146   0   94
Area 20 - San Juan Sockeye Gillnet   7/16/2023   2   4   247.05   26   0   10
Area 20 - San Juan Sockeye Gillnet   7/17/2023   2   4   249.9   15   0   36
Area 20 - San Juan Sockeye Gillnet   7/18/2023   2   4   249           190   0   59

good area 20 catch yesterday, still early for fraser pinks but looks like ocean survival was favorable. Still big uncertainty given the floods.

[fic]

Seems like the La Nina weather helped the survival rates for certain salmon species on the West Coast.  Now that we'll have El Nino Winters again, it may not be good the ocean survival rates in the near future.

[Kever]

Seems like the La Nina weather helped the survival rates for certain salmon species on the West Coast.  Now that we'll have El Nino Winters again, it may not be good the ocean survival rates in the near future.

My buddy who is a salmon scientist said this year and next should be decent but after that probably not.   

[wildmanyeah]

latest pink DNA from area 20

12% Fraser
19% Washington
69% other canadian south coast stocks

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.psc.org%2Fwp-admin%2Fadmin-ajax.php%3Fjuwpfisadmin%3Dfalse%26action%3Dwpfd%26task%3Dfile.download%26wpfd_category_id%3D677%26wpfd_file_id%3D15190%26token%3D%26preview%3D1&embedded=true