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Wade

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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #495 on: September 11, 2023, 10:19:29 PM »

Ive seen many people around me hooking into pinks, while im just casting around  ::) Thought it was my lure selection, or it truly is a luck based fishery.
more of luck based I guess…tried everything… the guy next to me was landed 3 with tasmanian devil, I lost 3 with the same lure😂on a good day I could land 5 or 6 with the same set up at the same spot within 30mins….but today was pure misery
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #496 on: September 12, 2023, 06:49:15 AM »

There is some skill involved in this fishery.  May be 35% technique and 65% luck. 
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #497 on: September 12, 2023, 07:46:43 AM »

There is some skill involved in this fishery.  May be 35% technique and 65% luck.

Agreed.

If someone who is among others but is able to catch more even though they are basically using same lure, there has to be something more than luck at play.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #498 on: September 12, 2023, 08:20:30 AM »

That inconsistency of success is a common complaint and has been going back 50+ years in my experience. There has been a lot of speculation particularly on exact location and the ephemeral nature of the bar structure. Specific locations can be very important for what ever reason. I fished beside my father on what's now called Derby Reach and an  early October day. With perhaps 100 rods in the water he caught 4 coho jacks while only one other fish was taken all day. There was nothing special about the bait. He used dew worms. Many anglers cast too far out. Fish are often quite close in. The common advice was to cast 30 to 50 feet. Casting 100 feet means your offering may spend more than half the time too far away from the fish traveling lanes. Pinks are lazy swimmers and stay close to shore if they can. Yesterday on a bar above Chilliwack the fish were in the shallow water, clear of strong currents just 10 to 30 feet from shore.  Other advice for spin casting is pay attention to the speed of your retrieve. Slower is better, especially with pinks. It also keeps you lure in the strike zone longer. Casting slightly downstream also helps as it gives the lure a bit more action and allows a slower retrieve If someone near you is having luck and you're not pay attention to what they may be doing differently & copy them.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #499 on: September 12, 2023, 08:35:34 AM »

That inconsistency of success is a common complaint and has been going back 50+ years in my experience. There has been a lot of speculation particularly on exact location and the ephemeral nature of the bar structure. Specific locations can be very important for what ever reason. I fished beside my father on what's now called Derby Reach and an  early October day. With perhaps 100 rods in the water he caught 4 coho jacks while only one other fish was taken all day. There was nothing special about the bait. He used dew worms. Many anglers cast too far out. Fish are often quite close in. The common advice was to cast 30 to 50 feet. Casting 100 feet means your offering may spend more than half the time too far away from the fish traveling lanes. Pinks are lazy swimmers and stay close to shore if they can. Yesterday on a bar above Chilliwack the fish were in the shallow water, clear of strong currents just 10 to 30 feet from shore.  Other advice for spin casting is pay attention to the speed of your retrieve. Slower is better, especially with pinks. It also keeps you lure in the strike zone longer. Casting slightly downstream also helps as it gives the lure a bit more action and allows a slower retrieve If someone near you is having luck and you're not pay attention to what they may be doing differently & copy them.

Depends on current, cast upstream allows the lure to sink deeper to the strike zoom.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #500 on: September 12, 2023, 08:43:52 AM »

Depends on current, cast upstream allows the lure to sink deeper to the strike zoom.
After switching to 15 lb mono bumper I have had much better success. Much less line abrasion, almost perfect land ratio. I started checking my hooks sharpness regularly. Slow retrieves with Tasmanians has worked killer. Only time I lost fish yesterday is when I had my drag too loose. I found to hook almost all my fish when next to no fish were surfacing or jumping
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #501 on: September 12, 2023, 09:16:00 AM »

Depends on current, cast upstream allows the lure to sink deeper to the strike zoom.

often the fish are in water less than 6 feet or even 3. You don't want you offering to sink as it should be above them so they see it. some folks do think that retrieving a lure or fly from below the fish upstream past their line of sight can spook them so too much angle downstream may be counter productive.
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #502 on: September 12, 2023, 09:29:17 AM »

Thanks Ralph for the info, that is exactly what I have observed too....and tide plays a big role - where the fish might hangout / travel
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #503 on: September 12, 2023, 09:29:54 AM »

After switching to 15 lb mono bumper

Whats a bumper?
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #504 on: September 12, 2023, 09:40:59 AM »

After switching to 15 lb mono bumper I have had much better success. Much less line abrasion, almost perfect land ratio. I started checking my hooks sharpness regularly. Slow retrieves with Tasmanians has worked killer. Only time I lost fish yesterday is when I had my drag too loose. I found to hook almost all my fish when next to no fish were surfacing or jumping

30lb mono is what I use
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #505 on: September 12, 2023, 09:41:48 AM »

Whats a bumper?
that thing in front of your car  ;)

its just a mono connection to mainline braid so your lure is tied to mono rather than braid
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #506 on: September 12, 2023, 09:49:41 AM »

that thing in front of your car  ;)

its just a mono connection to mainline braid so your lure is tied to mono rather than braid

Haha, us dinosaurs call it a "leader".
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #507 on: September 12, 2023, 10:09:15 AM »

 dennisK      +++     This woolly mammoth agrees.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2023, 10:14:18 AM by bj23 »
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #508 on: September 12, 2023, 10:16:47 AM »

Escapement Target Reached yesterday.  It's all bonus now.

08-Sep 278,200   HA   4,872,900
09-Sep 249,400   HA   5,122,300
10-Sep 343,100   HA   5,465,400
11-Sep 619,400   HA   6,084,800
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Re: Fraser Pinks 2023
« Reply #509 on: September 12, 2023, 10:20:18 AM »

Escapement Target Reached yesterday.  It's all bonus now.

08-Sep 278,200   HA   4,872,900
09-Sep 249,400   HA   5,122,300
10-Sep 343,100   HA   5,465,400
11-Sep 619,400   HA   6,084,800

Looks like the commercial opening accurately reduced half of daily run size every day. The commercial opening closed on Sep 10th
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