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[sthdslayer]

https://mcmillan.ca/insights/publications/bc-government-consulting-on-new-law-to-give-indigenous-groups-control-over-crown-land-decisions/

Something all who access crown land for any recreational activity should be aware of.

[wildmanyeah]

It the past it's usually ended up with a ruling like this


“reasonably balance” Indigenous and non-Indigenous interests"

The crown in most cases has rights over minerals, but fishing and hunting is different as often those were promised to first nations in order to get settlement and mineral rights.

[sthdslayer]

This time it is co-management

https://engage.gov.bc.ca/govtogetherbc/engagement/land-act-amendments/

[RalphH]

I don't see anything of immediate concern in either the Government release or the McMillan LP release. The latter is pretty clear the government objective concerns decisions about Crown Land tenure and specific infrastructure by corporations and other business organizations. There seems to be nothing that would impact individual members of the public who casually use Crown Land. Anyone with specific concerns can send them along via the communication links in release. 

[SuperBobby]

I don't see anything of immediate concern.......

Of course you don't, but for the rest of us with our eyes open who ignore the TV and MSN telling us how to think and act, we all know what road this goes down.
Little by little until it is all gone....we will just hand over more and more to the Natives. It has been going on for decades and it isn't going to change anytime soon.

[sthdslayer]

Joffrey lake is a sample of things to vome

[wildmanyeah]

20 years to get site C approved and built,

Provence is running out of electricity now during peak periods and legislation like this is just ensuring any future projects will never get approved.

[RalphH]

Provence is in France. However that is the root of the word you tried to spell

But BC has been growing and the weather has been getting both hotter and colder plus with less precipitation meaning lower reservoir levels  so yeah demand has been rising while supply has been declining.

Tell you a secret only you don't seem to know.

BC imports electricity from the US in the winter months has for decades. Most of our reservoirs are low and can't operate at peak levels so it's nothing new. The grids are linked so we get power from the US. BC exports hydro power in summer when the demand is highest for our US neighbor. Historically BC is a net export so it's to our benefit.

Joffre Lakes Parks had recently been overrun with visitors. Kind of makes sense to shut it down during FN food gathering. It made sense to me. I think the total closure was 10 days or less.

[cutthroat22]

Upper Squamish area has "private property - do not trespass - Squamish Nation" signs all over the place.  We'll see how this all play out.

[wildmanyeah]

Squamish Nation councillor Khelsilem posted on social media platform X on Monday: “Governments exercise authority. Indigenous governments exercise authority over title lands as an Indigenous right. The colonial panic about this coming change is ridiculous.”

[redside1]

Upper Squamish area has "private property - do not trespass - Squamish Nation" signs all over the place.  We'll see how this all play out.

it won't play out well. 4% of the population will have control over 94% of the land in BC.

[RalphH]

The Calder court ruling that established that unless otherwise modified  via a treaty, aboriginal title still exists over most Crown land in BC, is over 50 years old. So yeah in a certain respect the chicken little reaction is ridiculous.

Another point Crown title and aboriginal title exist at the same time.  That's much like fee simple title. Fee simple allows the holder certain rights but is subordinate to Crown title. Aboriginal title supersedes all other title excepting Crown title.

On way to address a situation such as FNs posting title lands (and also in the Skeena) is to negotiate treaties so spell out who controls what lands and the extent of their right to control or limit access or to license development. The Province dragged it's feet on this for well over 100 years and the first treaty wasn't put into effect until 2000. Few have bee finalized since. The process is laboriously slow and both levels of government limit the number of FN groups they will negotiate with to a small number.

[wildmanyeah]

it won't play out well. 4% of the population will have control over 94% of the land in BC.

The story is being covered by CKNW lots, yesterday and today they had lawyers and NDP responses. NDP is saying this was always there as part of federal law, FNs need to be consulted over crown land use as they have title , this was the natural step after signing UNDRiP into law NDP says. They don’t understand why this is making news.

The layers agree but this said is different in that in of just needing the government approval you would need First Nation approval as well not just consult and that perhaps this would give them a veto. What would happen if the government approved them but First Nations said no as this implies you need both to approve.

There really is no details available tho on what the
Actual implementation or legislation is going to be.


Said there is 40 thousand tenures that could be effected.

sky resorts, marinas, fish farms, roads, right of ways, ect

[RalphH]

I think it's good this gets into the public sphere as people can Government's attention. Make sure you provide your feedback. Squawking on line get's ignored. No reason that FNs can't get some power over approvals,  perhaps get some portion of tenure fees and there still public access for casual use such as hiking, fishing and   hunting.

[wildmanyeah]

I think it's good this gets into the public sphere as people can Government's attention. Make sure you provide your feedback. Squawking on line get's ignored. No reason that FNs can't get some power over approvals,  perhaps get some portion of tenure fees and there still public access for casual use such as hiking, fishing and   hunting.

yup