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SuperBobby

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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2024, 01:00:54 PM »

Instead of hoping for low chum numbers, we should lobby to eliminate all gill netting from mixed stock waters.

Many groups have been trying this since the early 90s. Literally falls on deaf ears....nothing received back other than lip service.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2024, 01:06:20 PM »

Have you ever had ocean caught chum? Or those silver bullets that were once abundant in the Squamish river?

Yeah....an old friend of mine was as good as they get when it came to smoking fish. He had some chrome chum from the chuck and even did a fancy batch with some Grand Marnier.
I just can't get the flavor of chum. It doesn't resemble the other Pacific salmon at all.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2024, 10:23:43 PM »

I think the only thing that was controversial about chum was the super enhancement of the early fall fish and  put the main commercial harvest during the period IFS and IFC (and some other stocks) co-migrated upstream.

... and yeah we need to end the gill net fisheries but progress has been made though it needs to stop completely.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2024, 10:52:13 AM »

I think the only thing that was controversial about chum was the super enhancement of the early fall fish and  put the main commercial harvest during the period IFS and IFC (and some other stocks) co-migrated upstream.

... and yeah we need to end the gill net fisheries but progress has been made though it needs to stop completely.

all because no one liked gill netting in the cold months of November/early December. Incredibly poor decision making back then.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2024, 01:21:08 PM »

Gillnetting is a relatively simple technique that allows a small group of individuals to earn income. In contrast, other fishing methods are more conducive to communal efforts.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2024, 02:29:22 PM »

all because no one liked gill netting in the cold months of November/early December. Incredibly poor decision making back then.

from what I read, the Commercial fishermen were more concerned with the frequency of gales in the Salish sea and the offshore waters late in season & loss of life.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2024, 03:26:57 PM »

opening in the ocean

ategory(s):RECREATIONAL - Salmon
Subject:FN1033-RECREATIONAL Salmon - Chum - Areas 11 to 20, 28, 111, 121 to 127 and Subareas 29-1 to 29-5, 29-8 - Opening - Effective October 5, 2024


Effective 00:01 hours October 5, 2024, until 23:59 hours March 31, 2025, the daily limit of Chum salmon is two (2) in the following waters:

Areas 11 to 21, 28, 111, 121 to 127, and Subareas 29-1 to 29-5 and 29-8.

Local fisheries management measures remain in place including finfish closures and rockfish conservation areas. Please check your local area regulations before fishing.

Variation Order: 2024-RFQ-407

NOTES AND REMINDERS:

Barbless hooks are required when fishing for salmon in tidal and non-tidal waters of British Columbia.

The term "marked", "hatchery marked", or "adipose fin clipped" means a fish that has a healed scar in place of the adipose fin.

All anglers must have a licence to fish in tidal waters in BC. Apply for your BC tidal waters recreational fishing licence and salmon conservation stamp at: https://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/licence-permis/index-eng.html.

Anglers are advised to check: http://bcsportfishguide.ca for fishing closures and other recreational fishing information.

Rockfish Conservation Areas (RCAs) are currently in effect and are closed to all fin-fishing.  Descriptions of RCAs and other closures such as finfish closed areas, salmon non-retention areas, and other recreational fishing information, can be found on the internet at:
https://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/index-eng.html
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2024, 04:19:07 PM »

Oh no...... I've already had people telling me that chum is open. And I've had to correct them that it's marine waters only. I'm personally in the boat of keeping it closed even if the numbers are good.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2024, 05:08:21 PM »

May be Region 2 will open next week. So many cohos and springs still going really strong on the Vedder, not sure if many people will take their 1 chum.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2024, 11:43:23 PM »

See, healthy chum runs ARE important 😀

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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2024, 01:20:39 PM »

So they opened it up, but not for lower mainland...

"FN1053-RECREATIONAL Salmon - Chum - Areas 11 to 20, 28, 111, 121 to 127 and Subareas 29-1 to 29-5, 29-8 - Opening - Effective October 12, 2024"
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #41 on: October 10, 2024, 08:36:37 PM »

test numbers for chum are looking excellent. the fact that it is not open is purely political at this point, as usual
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2024, 08:54:40 AM »

So they opened it up, but not for lower mainland...

"FN1053-RECREATIONAL Salmon - Chum - Areas 11 to 20, 28, 111, 121 to 127 and Subareas 29-1 to 29-5, 29-8 - Opening - Effective October 12, 2024"

This is an increase from the 2 chum per day to 4 chums per day.  It was opened on October 4th for 2 chums per day.
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2024, 11:17:03 AM »

test numbers for chum are looking excellent.

I have not followed the numbers at all this year so was surprised to see how high they are so far. To date it's in the ballpark of the returns of the mid 2010's which I think were considered quite healthy?

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"FN1053-RECREATIONAL Salmon - Chum - Areas 11 to 20, 28, 111, 121 to 127 and Subareas 29-1 to 29-5, 29-8 - Opening - Effective October 12, 2024"

Are areas 29-[1-5] expected to be majority Fraser bound? If so, it would seem illogical to not only open the tidal, but even increase the retention limits without eventually opening some sort of terminal fishery...
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Re: Chum Salmon Closure for Region 2
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2024, 07:33:33 AM »

The Stave Chums must be stacking up pretty nicely by now.  Unfortunately the parking situation is difficult.
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