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[RalphH]

This year the Department of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO) has predicted what may be a generational run as they forecast a median return of 27 million.

https://www.nanaimobulletin.com/local-news/massive-predicted-return-of-pink-salmon-could-bolster-island-community-7867106

[Dave]

Watch Almo take credit for this 

[DanL]

This year the Department of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO) has predicted what may be a generational run as they forecast a median return of 27 million

Based on previous years published values and figures, that could be the highest return ever recorded. Anything over 20M would be historic

[RalphH]

the article indicated estimated harvest rate at such level is 70% which would allow an escapement of 8.1 million which would mean the number entering the Fraser (that's what the estimate is for) would be about the same as 2023 if the commercial sector actually goes out to catch it's allotment.

The estimate is primarily based on sampled outgoing fry from the Fraser. Interesting because as I recall 23/24 was a low water year and many folks (me included) worried spawning success would be negatively impacted. Overall adult returns to Fraser Valley streams wasn't terribly high. The Mission escapement was a little over 9.5 million. Ocean survival and in stream fry survival seem to be the major factors in return rates.

[roeman]

" Ocean survival and in stream fry survival seem to be the major factors in return rates."
LOL.  Do you need a university degree to make a statement like this? 
Lots of fry survive.  Lots of adults survive.  Lots return.  Pretty simple math.

[RalphH]

" Ocean survival and in stream fry survival seem to be the major factors in return rates."
LOL.  Do you need a university degree to make a statement like this? 
Lots of fry survive.  Lots of adults survive.  Lots return.  Pretty simple math.

I am sure you are very good at simple math.

Compare it to the common folk wisdom that it's higher escapement & the higher the better is what matters.

[SuperBobby]

None of this matters to the sporties above Mission, because we won't get an opening until the Pinks are in their spawning stage. I miss the days when we were allowed to harvest the Pinks in August.

[SuperBobby]

Also to mention that the access to the Fraser River in the Chilliwack area has been absolutely decimated. The days of salmon fishing with long seasons and tailgate bbqs/campfires at the river with family and friends....gone. Government overreach is a freakin joke.

[RalphH]

are you talking about blocking vehicle access as was done at Gill Road and Ferry Road?

[SuperBobby]

are you talking about blocking vehicle access as was done at Gill Road and Ferry Road?

Gill Road, Ferry Island, Peg Leg, Jesperson's boat launch, the cement barriers on Balaam road. The list goes on and on and on. There is no access anywhere unless you want to pay at Island 22, or the fishing lodge near Agassiz.

[redside1]

None of this matters to the sporties above Mission, because we won't get an opening until the Pinks are in their spawning stage. I miss the days when we were allowed to harvest the Pinks in August.

the wheels are in motion to try and get the river opened earlier than in the past. Not sure how successful the groups attempting to do this will be but hopefully they are.

[RalphH]

Gill Road, Ferry Island, Peg Leg, Jesperson's boat launch, the cement barriers on Balaam road. The list goes on and on and on. There is no access anywhere unless you want to pay at Island 22, or the fishing lodge near Agassiz.

Gill, Ferry island as well the access on the north side have blocked access to vehicles due to abuse. There is still foot access. Ferry Island had been turned into a garbage dump. Tranmer Road  (Fraser River lodge) access wasn't owned by the lodge but by the farm owner. The access roads has been turned into swamp and mud hole by 4x4 joy riders so he blocked it off not the lodge. He also let the District put in a small parking lot for people who walk along the dike. There is no bar at Tranmer as they remove the gravel as soon as it builds up. They did it again this winter.

So there is no foot access Peg Leg and Jesperson's?

In 2022 when they opened Sockeye CP/CN posted a Railway Police officer at the park for the popular bars because people were running out in front of the trains rather than wait 5 minutes.

Some people are idiots. Blame them.

[Wiseguy]

I had some good pink fishing 2 years ago during the short opening above the Mission Bridge. River access is easily available if you’re able to walk abit of a distance. The bars are way less crowded now that vehicle access has been restricted. Some of the pinks caught were decent table fare if you wanted to keep a fish. I am a catch and release fisherman so I didn’t keep any. Even caught a few chrome cohos on the pink colored lures I was using. Looking forward to another opening.

[wildmanyeah]

Gill, Ferry island as well the access on the north side have blocked access to vehicles due to abuse. There is still foot access. Ferry Island had been turned into a garbage dump. Tranmer Road  (Fraser River lodge) access wasn't owned by the lodge but by the farm owner. The access roads has been turned into swamp and mud hole by 4x4 joy riders so he blocked it off not the lodge. He also let the District put in a small parking lot for people who walk along the dike. There is no bar at Tranmer as they remove the gravel as soon as it builds up. They did it again this winter.

So there is no foot access Peg Leg and Jesperson's?

In 2022 when they opened Sockeye CP/CN posted a Railway Police officer at the park for the popular bars because people were running out in front of the trains rather than wait 5 minutes.

Some people are idiots. Blame them.

I believe laid law was also closed because of to much garbage, and peoples used toilet paper everywhere as well

[wildmanyeah]

To be fair this is not new, My coworker told me when he was in his early teens they use to rally race on herrling island, He told me the abandoned lots of their vehicles their they could not get out.

He's in in late 50's