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[roeman]

There are lots of gill net / set nets on the Fraser back channels when there are salmon in the rivers.  Whether there is an opening or no opening.  I see them every year from the mouth of the Vedder up to Hope.  Its just the way it is.  Also talk to a couple of old timers that bar fish for springs every year in out of the way areas.  Keeps them happy and active and get fish for the year. 

[SuperBobby]

There are lots of gill net / set nets on the Fraser back channels when there are salmon in the rivers.  Whether there is an opening or no opening.  I see them every year from the mouth of the Vedder up to Hope.  Its just the way it is.  Also talk to a couple of old timers that bar fish for springs every year in out of the way areas.  Keeps them happy and active and get fish for the year.

Ralph believes that our FN people are all law abiding citizens that only take what they are allowed. He also believes the chiefs of each band always keep their FN fishermen in line.

The fact remains that even though our government discriminates by race who gets to fish and who doesn't, and also that FN people gets first crack at the salmon.....the natives still... even with being first in everything (in regards to salmon harvest).....break the law and take fish (and by unlawful methods) whenever they want according to what they see as right or wrong.
Ralph has no issues with any of that as he has displayed in his posts for over 2 decades now.

[RalphH]

I have never said any of these things.

I don't understand what your issue is. I posted information about the pre-season pink salmon forecast and you've gone off on a tirade.

[clarki]

I diagnose  a chronic case of RDS (Ralph Derangement Syndrome)

[fic]

Does that mean we'll have an opening for the Squamish Pinks this year?  Has the Spit removal helped the pinks for this year's return?

[RalphH]

DFO doesn't do a forecast for the Squamish system so it doesn't tell us anything about what that return may be like,

[fic]

I remember the 2011 and 2013 Pinks at the Squamish was pretty decent. Then it started a slow down hill decline after that.  Hopefully it will surpass those numbers but who knows.

[clarki]

Does that mean we'll have an opening for the Squamish Pinks this year?  Has the Spit removal helped the pinks for this year's return?

Good point about the spit... 300m was removed in 2022 and the last 550m section was removed in early 2023 which would directly benefit the out-migrating pink fry in spring 2024 from the 2023 brood year...the very fish that we will be seeing this summer.

From what I read, chinook salmon are the targeted species to enhance with the berm removal but it will be interesting to see if other species benefit as well, particularly chum and pink that don't spend as long in freshwater as chinook and coho.

[redside1]

Fall Highwater events greatly harm Squamish system pink returns. If there was a gravel moving event in the fall after the spawn happened there is a good chance the return will be greatly affected

[RalphH]

I want to reiterate the forecast is based on outbound fry sampling in the Fraser watershed. It doesn't say anything about ocean survival over the last year +. If you look at info on past forecast and returns you'll see the match of pre-season forecast to actual returns estimated in season and postseason are highly variable. Last word is best I know DFO does not do any pre-season estimate other than the Fraser on the south coast.

I think there is some work done locally in Squamish  by people associated with the Squamish Nation. Member BKK who hasn't posted in a while would sometimes offer some info on that. There was one major high water even on the Squamish around the Feb '24. Overall people who have fished that area in 23 and 21 reported fishing was pretty good though there was no retention in river. Reports I heard Furry Creek was very spotty and fish numbers arrived later than in previous high return years.