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[gman]

I would usually not provide a link to a thread on another forum, but this one is very interesting. I happen to agree that many of these ideas would address some of the problems and issues with the Fraser fishery that have been debated on this board as well. Lets not turn it into a flossing debate please.

http://forum.fishbc.com/index.php?showtopic=12283

My version of the summary of the recommendations of these posts is:
- barbless hooks (adopted 1998)
-artificial lures only while fishing for salmon, trout ,steelhead) ( Sept 9 - October 11) (so no complete fall river closure)
-maximimum leader length restriction, likely one metre or less. 75cm?
Apply's during sockeye closures only
- annual limits on sockeye retention (maybe 10?)
- 2 salmon per day limit
- more enforcement

[Fishin Freak]

Couldn't agree more!

[Fishbreath]

I agree with most of the suggestions.  But can DFO afford the lost revenues from the backlash of lowered license sales?  And if there is a lost of revenue where will the next cuts be?

[canoe man]

very interesting proposals fulcram29
but i do see a draw back with #2 and that is we may end up with people bar fishin with 12 foot leaders lol

im cool with 1-3 and 4 but # 5 well i think no one named norm should be allowed to hunt for aggates period  
cnm

[Fish Assassin]

Seems reasonable to me

[DragonSpeed]

6) "fair hooked" sockeye MUST be kept.  - NO C&R, unless hooked not in mouth (not going to get into the "fair hook" aspect of flossing)

7) once you have two sockeye, you MUST cease fishing the river. (Steelhead like)

[Fishin Freak]

How greedy do we need to be though? Two fish a day is more than enough.

[casinoJim]

I like to make full use of my day and get a spring as well if possible. It is a very long drive for me and I am most satisfied when I have my 2 Socks and a spring.

I don't think I'm being greedy ... as the fish are consumed by the family... just trying to make best use of my ...sadly limited...fishing time.

CJ.

[Jimmy]

for every one salmon killed you must kill 3 bass

[blaydRnr]

change of fishing techniques, lowering of daily limits, and increase of funding..... seen and heard it all before.

pointless, if there's  lack of enforcement. change needs to be made from 'the top'. political mandate, special interest groups, and commercial distribution. that's the 'Goliath' and cancer of our fishery.   haven't we learned our lesson from this country's current history?

Just look at the East Coast.  Practically no recreational, or sports industry.  Yet they've managed to obliverate their Cod  Fishery. Why? because the lack of foresight. Now they want to blame everybody else.  it's true international pressures are not helping the cause, but why was that not address sooner?  POLITICS .

why deal with the itch, when we should be dealing with the infection?

[Matuka Jack]

My proposal...

rule #1
Barbless hooks, that
a) when used in motion that is not a sationary line, limited less than 2/0
b) no limit when used in conjunction with a stationary line
c) does not apply to sturgeon fishing

rule#2
leader legnth limited to 1meter for lines that are not stationary.
(leader being defined as the legnth of fishing line between the weight and the hook)

rule#3
Classified waters tag.  An extra $15 charge to fish for sockeye. (directly paid into a DFO officer's salary!)

rule#4
20 Sockeye per family per year, 4 per family per day.
10 Springs per person per year.

rule #5
Aggate hunting for all!!

IMHO this whole proposal does not make sense to me.

Rule #1 - How would you define what is stationary on a flowing river?
                     As far as I know things that you put on the flowing river moves.  
                     If you retieve the line will certainly go in motion.
               Do you put camera under water all along all the river in BC to prove that the line went in motion?
                     That would cost a lot of money which every government department are claiming they are short of.  

Rule #2 - What happens if the person uses a sliding weight and the hook is connected directly to the main line?
                     This would allow the flossing portion to be extended once it start to drift.  Thus, the rule accomplish nothing.

Rule #3 - Do you remember how the property tax came about?
                     If the fee is applied it will never be spent as promised (directly paid into a DFO officer's salary1).  Sorry to burst you bubble.

Rule #4 - The sockeye rule is an extremely regressive.  This would penalize large families.  Who ever would support this rule would most likely support a rule that abortion is mandatory after a couple have certain number of children.
                    I am a peace loving person,  but I would gladly bear arms and go to war to  prevent our society from becoming regressive.

Rule #5 - Should DFO be making rules about aggate?
                   I do not know whats the big deal about aggate.

The proposal is kind of......................

[leadbelly]

agates are very important to the fishery.

[blaydRnr]

yah, that's right.  let's keep increasing the cost of recreational fishing.... that way only the rich and elite can enjoy the sport.  better yet, let's create another 'cash cow' for the politicians to dip their fingers in. after all,  they've done such a stellar job of managing our fisheries already.    

[blaydRnr]

Rule #1 would be referring to a set line, as in bar fishing.
Rule #5 is an inside running joke on FWR
Rule #3 $15 to go back into habitat restoration(general revenue  )

Actually Rule #5 should have a classified waters permit attached to it also, with me being the issuer

isn't that what the salmon conservation stamp and special permit is for?

[Matuka Jack]

Rule #1 would be referring to a set line, as in bar fishing.
Rule #5 is an inside running joke on FWR
Rule #3 $15 to go back into habitat restoration(general revenue  )

Actually Rule #5 should have a classified waters permit attached to it also, with me being the issuer

Doc,
Rule #1 - But you can still BB that whole set line setup, with the proper adjustment in weight.
Rule #3 - It still not going to be used the way you said it would.  It may take a untill after the next election.  The politics of the whole thing will change the rule on how it will be spend.  I guarantee that something like this will be increased at a higher rate than inflation.  It does not matter what any body say about it, I do not buy it.  History fully support my opinion.