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[preacher]

Hi

My brother just gave me a nice 10 wt fly rod and reel.  The only problem is that it comes with floating line.  I realize that some sort of sinking line would be best on the Vedder.  Does anyone have any suggestions on getting the fly down without getting new line and new spool?

Thanks

[Fish Assassin]

Weighted flies.

[preacher]

I do have some weighted flys.  I am just not sure if this is enough weight to get it to the fish.  I have heard of some that use split shots or weighted addition to the fly line.  What kind of line do you use on the Vedder?

[Fish Assassin]

I use a Rio multi tip system

[FLYallAROUND]

if you want you can make your own sink tips using leadcore lines and cutting it to different sizes. just make 5ft length 10 ft lenght and 15 ft length using lc13 leadcore line. the 5 ft length would be best because not so much of a belly for the vedder.

[FishGuts]

use tiny split shots and drift glowbugs, works great with a dryline

[preacher]

just got the rio sinking tip for Anglers West.  Gonna try it on Monday.  Thanks for the help

[flyguy44]

                             FLYallAROUND

 I have spoken to several people over the years while fishing different rivers who tie they'r own sinking tips as you have described and they all agree that it is better than using splitshot .   splitshot is ugly to cast

         good advice

[FLYallAROUND]

also if you accidently knick your rod with the split shot say goodbye as it WILL break sooner or later if it is graphite. same goes for beadheaded flies.

[Fish Assassin]

You won't regret the Rio multi tip system.

[newsman]

The technic FlyAll is refering too, making your own sinktips with lead core line, is commonly known as leadheading. I have found that leadheading with a dry line is the most versatile system for covering rivers, by alowing you to cover all zones of the water column, surface to bottom, by ajusting the amount of lead "you" build into youir line. 

[Matuka Jack]

I've done some deep water trolling before and have used a lead core lines.  All I know about it is the strength designation (ie. in lbs.).
What does an lc13 lead core designation means?
Does lc13 means it is 13 lbs line?
Could someone explain this in more detail.  I am interested in it because it sounds like a cheap way to cover all the different depths.

[newsman]

good question Jack I never though about it.

    The dacon coated lead core I use seemed strong so I never though of the lb test rating. I tie it into my leader and check it regularly. When it starts to look worn I replace it (a spool last for ever). I have yet to have one of my leadheads fail after in the six years I have been using them (landed more than a few 25lb+ Chum & Spring). Beats the "H" out of using weighted flies like I uses to do.

[Steelhead King]

with my under standing on the LC13- "lead core" the number 13 i believe is stand for the sink rate.  Like under normal, stillwater condiction, it should sink at about 13 inches per second.

[Matuka Jack]

Thanks for the info everyone.  This should help me get the unweighted flies to where the fish are.  I would not have to use the 'chuck and duck' technique of casting weighted flies.