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[Nostro]

Two articles of interest in a Chilliwack paper today:
http://www.theprogress.com/

Does anyone really want the truth?

[Terry Bodman]

Nothing makes better reading than Native vs Non-Native confrontation. The Progress staff loves this stuff. Easy to write...controversial....what could be better from a reporter's point of view. It also helps to detract from the real issue...what did happen to the Stuart run? Can't be blamed on warm water...wasn't a problem at that time...could it be, I wonder, as simple as a river full of set and drift nets=few fish reaching their destination? In  my opinion, this problem is not rocket science but common sense.

[pepsitrev]

thanx this was very interesting to read better than the morning paper.

[flyguy44]

I was at the peg leg protest and maybe I missed it or your not talking about it but I was wondering when Lou goes to court and if members of the fishing community will be going to support him and this great cause.

          Mike

[flyguy44]

I just seen the other thread

[chris gadsden]

Do not scare Lew as it was Bill that was charged.

[flyguy44]

My mistake still learning and trying to keep everybodys names straight.

 So many threads so little time

[rerigger]

if the natives had spring nets out when the early stuarts went through a large numder would have gone right through the mesh
but if the fish entered the river they went somewhere

[The Gilly]

The blame lands squarely on DFO.  I don't see it as a native/no-native issue.  The was illegal fishing and it was allowed to continue (DFO's fault).  There was mismanagement of the resource (DFO's fault).  This whole situation get blown out of proportion when we start talking about natives & non-natives.  It's too easy for the natives to call racism, and it's too easy to point the finger at the natives.  We should refer to poachers as poachers not native poachers or white poachers.  Illegal fishing is illegal and everyone that  does it should pay the piper.  Enforce the regs DFO and no special treatment for anybody.

[Gooey]

The native they quoted in the paper as saying they always up quotas early and then get screwed when the run proves to be too small for that...he was on to something I think.  Think ofd it guys 1.5 million missing sockeye....that a lot of fish to keep off the books.

I was at a ubc open house and saw several models of how they predict school size based on catches for a certain area.  Problem is that I have heard off COMMERCIAL boats that go out, outside of openings, catch fish, store them til a commercial opening and then dump them in with the legal catch.  Its salmon laundering and my belief is that this greatly skews the DFO population estimates.   

I do believe the native fraser fishery is a problem, particularly in terms of sensitive stocks, but thats just 1 piece of the problem.

[Rodney]

Come on now, does this look like a convict to you?



After going through my schooling in fishery management and my involvement with various sportfishing related projects, I have concluded that to improve the state of the Fraser River fishery, we need to solve the social problems that revolve around it first.

I think most would agree that the general atmosphere from this previous opening is poor. Theft, garbage dumping, confrontations between different interest groups were common. There needs to be talk between these groups, so a common understanding developed. If all groups are fighting against each other, the problem will simply escalate and in the end only the fish will suffer.

[The Gilly]

Well said Rodney.  The blame as I say has to be put on DFO.  They're the ones that are entrusted with managing the resource.  It's always goes both way's, but it is very difficult not to finger point at times.  The problem is that the finger is always pointed at a group rather that an individual.  It's the individuals that are fishing illegally that need to be removed from the fishery.

By the way...I wouldn't want to meet him in a dark alley

[2:40]

Every other year when warm water resulted in fish kills you saw HUNDREDS of sockeye floating in the river from any one vantage point.

Seems this year the fish weren't left in the river long enough to die from warm water.  Dont try to tell me it's the same as other years cuze it aint!

I agree with you on what you say Rodney.