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[blogspotter]

This is fun..... i want to add my 2 cents too!!!

- i really like this forum, and  i like the people here... but guys, for a second put yourselfs in the others' shoes!

now step back and think... if you were a smoker (or non smoker) how would you feel by the others comments?
just stop reading and think for a second... if u never smoked then think of something else you do that is not "perfect"

You wouldn't smoke up infront of the police right? that tells you something...

the quote above is interesting...
- You wouldn't tell the office how you felt about him if he's giving you a ticket that you don't think is fair would u?
see how long you can talk smack to a cop before he takes you with him.. - oh btw, i thought freedom of speech was a right?

- you also wouldn't (as someone in an earlier post pointed out) pee infront of a cop - which is also illegal, and as the same post states ( when fishing do you want to pack up your gear and head to the nearest gas station with a washroom every time u gotta pee?)

Again my post isn't meant to offend anyone,
Just funny to see all the " Would you....if ..." "you should ...." "I would never...."
we are all guilty of something... if you don't smoke, and don't drink good for you, but that does not make you perfect
i'm sure there are tonnes of other things that you don't want to share with us.

In any case i put in my 2 cents... - my post isn't targeting anyone but everyone
i won't tell you if i smoke/drink/sleep/pee/fart/eat/floss/etc/etc.... i am who i want to be.. and so are you

Cheers all

[casinoJim]

Today finishes my 38 th time around the sun... So feeling entitled allow me to weigh in on this subject.

If the fella beside me needed to pee I would expect him to mutter something about taking care of his spot and excuse himself to a discrete place to do his business... as I would.

Why ? Because to relieve himself beside me might make me feel uncomfortable.

Toking while fishing ? One might want to realize that the pungent odor of your weed might be just as offensive to others. You could excuse yourself and "do your business" off from the line and come back.

Why would one want to do this? The only reason I can see is for the peace you would enjoy. I fish for meat. And I fish for the peaceful experience I enjoy as I provide meat for my  family. If I engage  in behavior that would offend others I surrender some of my  peaceful experience.

Quoting Desiderata "As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all people".

This I try to do.

regards,
CasinoJim.

[Stratocaster]

if u never smoked then think of something else you do that is not "perfect"

You got me there, I do fart in my neoprenes but the ones that you can hear usually don't do much damage.  Its the silent ones that are bad and I blame the other person beside me anyways!!.

Today finishes my 38 th time around the sun... So feeling entitled allow me to weigh in on this subject.

If the fella beside me needed to pee I would expect him to mutter something about taking care of his spot and excuse himself to a discrete place to do his business... as I would.

Why ? Because to relieve himself beside me might make me feel uncomfortable.

Toking while fishing ? One might want to realize that the pungent odor of your weed might be just as offensive to others. You could excuse yourself and "do your business" off from the line and come back.

Why would one want to do this? The only reason I can see is for the peace you would enjoy. I fish for meat. And I fish for the peaceful experience I enjoy as I provide meat for my family. If I engage in behavior that would offend others I surrender some of my peaceful experience.

Quoting Desiderata "As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all people".

This I try to do.

regards,
CasinoJim.

Eloquently put Casino.  The issue is not about smoking rights its about having some consideration for the people fishing around you. 

[steelheadjunkie]

See all you guys on the flow. Ill be the guy with the giant doobie puffing away as I walk down the river.

[Double Underhooks]

No offence taken Splavik and you have a good analogy of peeing in public.

Though it is probably illegal to urinate in public, I believe the law is within reason (since many Acts are taken from the 'reasonable person' viewpoint) (I'm sure there isn't a law prohibiting peeing in the wilderness when camping).

If you have to go (piss in public), you have to go...but can one justify before a judge that they 'had' to toke? I think not...

And mouthing off a cop as he tickets you... Why would you do that? Chances are you were pulled over for a reason. To mouth someone off for doing their job and when you were in the wrong (in most cases) is a poor display of behaviour. You knew the rules but chose to break them. I'm not saying that I don't speed but if I got a ticket, I know I was in the wrong. I might plead my case through a dispute and get a break but if I didn't get it then I was just SOL.

And you can mouth off a cop, he would probably harrass you for a bit but who instigated it? Its your right to speak freely even if you choose to be unreasonable but its also his/her right to detain you if you were being a nuisance in public. Using your 'right' to violate others just doesn't add up.

I was using 'you' just as a example, I didn't mean you Spalvik. Hope your not offended.

[blogspotter]

Double,

No offense taken... what i like about debates is there is just an infinite number of examples both for and against any subject we pick... countless "What ifs" and "why would ?"

I'm actually pleasantly surprised this topic didn't get out of hand... i like everyone's arguments, and it will definitely
be something I'll be observing next time.

Cheers

[Bantam_50]

What the heck ... waters frothing from all the chumming being done .   I guess I should toss a cast into this fray also. 

Firstly ...I agree with jettabambino ... and I think ones own should answer his simple question...WHY?

Now ... I've been there, done it    .... the weed, the reebs and tobacco. 

But after 45 years ... and much more wisdom  ...I no longer toke, enjoy a cold reeb (cola, water, ice tea do the same ... cost a fraction of the price ...you've heard,  I know ... k) and I'm currently in the metamorphosis of shaking them barbs (good one keithr  ) of that evil tobacco.

Still pee (discreetly), drive a vehicle (in CJ's peaceful way  ) ... but the ? nags to answered.

Why would a person dispatch themselves from the confines of their warm Dana Down, get prepared (can't forget the java  ) ... to drive to some angling destination to arrive at the crack of drawn or sometimes prior ...only to pull out their DA Giant Doobie and start sucking on it? Now I've experienced this mind warp from the evils of tobacco ...  (there's a major power struggle happening in skullville right now  ) but when I partook ...somehow I had more sense, better respect for others than to indulge then.

Yes to each his own ... and at what road do we as individuals stop? IMO angling is a special place ... nothing wrong with asking to keep it that way.

I'm really curious to hear mr.pink and steelheadjunkie's replies. 

btw - IMO ... if they legalize pot mr.pink ... why not throw the baby out with the bathwater too. 

[steelheadjunkie]

Why would a person dispatch themselves from the confines of their warm Dana Down, get prepared (can't forget the java   ) ... to drive to some angling destination to arrive at the crack of drawn or sometimes prior ...only to pull out their DA Giant Doobie and start sucking on it?

Because I enjoy it. Angling IS a special place. A special place I enjoy while smoking a joint. There is nothing better than getting to the river before its light enough to see, and sit on a rock waiting for first light and puffing a fat one. Its not like we are cramped up in a small room and everyone else is getting poisoned by my smoke. I am outside when I smoke my joint, by the river with plenty of fresh air for all. In my opinion this is the MOST appropriate place to smoke where there is lots of air flow. Now I do apply common sense....obviously if I see a father with his young sons/daughters I am not going to walk up and blow smoke in their direction, that would be very inconsiderate. But if all I see is adults on the river near me Im gonna blaze up and I dont really care what anyone thinks. People offend me all the time on the river and dont think twice about it cutting me off when Im trying to work down a run, or snagging fish, the list goes on and on. If you are going to talk about offensive things happening on the flow I would think the guy smoking the the joint would be pretty far down the list compared to the other BS i see happening out there. If you think smoking a joint is so Illeagal and socially offensive next time you see a guy smoking a joint on the river call the cops and see how far you get, probably about as far as calling DFO to report snaggers on the river.They would never show up.

[bbronswyk2000]

Thats so true so true. Very good points steelheadjunkie. By the way someone metioned something about you wouldnt smoke it infront of a cop. Well go to Main & Hastings where the cop shop is and see how many junkies shoot up right infront of it.

[keithr]

Good luck quiting the tobacco, Bantom 50.  You can do it.

[Rodney]

There's hope after all...

[steelheadjunkie]

Thats good news Rodney. Truly tobbacco is a habit I really need to quit. I have tried to quit and failed so many times I hope one day there is something out there that makes it easier for people to quit.

[newsman]

Wow some of you guys are long winded. We should start our own political party the FWR Party and use an anti-sealice campain for our platform. Anyway you all have raised some good points. Rod you covered some points I have never thought about.

So here's my two cents when it comes to sportfishing we have some safety issues that are never thought of until faced with them.

 Dangerous wading condtions: loose rocks that move when stepped on, slippery rocks, strong currents, rising waters, undermined structures, & quicksand.
Falling into a stream and being washed down stream.
Losing the trail in the dark and becoming lost.
Hypothermia, & hyperthermia.
Any one of us could be faced with one or many of the above at any time when angling. To deal with these situation effectively we need a clear head. A good fishing trip is the one you come back from, saftey first.

[rerigger]

saftey first is always the only way to go

so drink and toke safely

one need not try to cross a rushing stream  or stay until after dark

but if i know the way while clear eyed and bushy tailed i sure do after a beer or joint
having a beer(joint) does not mean i have a death wish

[Steelies-nitemare]

uhhhhhh??  I was gonna post but I forgot what I was gonna say..............