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[pepsitrev]

  thanx fishin freak for this update. keep us posted

[Floater]

WHAT THE HELL! this is getting annoying still no opener? does dfo hate the common fishermen or something.

[Rodney]

Do you guys even read the entire notice? Or just go straight down to this line "Sockeye retention remains closed in the Fraser River."?

[DragonSpeed]

Do you guys even read the entire notice? Or just go straight down to this line "Sockeye retention remains closed in the Fraser River."?

Why would we?  It's all about "Me, Me, Me"    I admit, the first thing I do is it CTRL-F and type in "Recreational"

Then, I go and read the rest to figure out why.

[Gooey]

Chill out gang...is flossing a sockeye really that thrilling that people are just chomping at the bit to ge out there?!?

The early stuarts have passed (conservation issue there no longer a question)...let the summer runs build up, right now, there isnt a conservation issue with them so until I see some good numbers in the rivers, I really dont want to run out to some silly bar and stand there in the baking sun for 4 hours trying to floss a couple socks.  In a weeks time hopefully the fish will be there, FN will have their quota met and we can have at 'er without different user groups clashing ie Cheam injunction etc.

If the fish arent in within a week or so then we should graciously put our bouncing betties away for a year because at that point we may have a real concervation problem.

So just chill and have some faith that DFO knows what they are doing...kind of.   

[pepsitrev]

  gee gooey you kind of make sense .  whats another week anyways like you said let the runs build up and then we will get our chance. and if not think of the money you all will save in bouncin bettys this year

[DragonSpeed]

Doh!   Damned logic again

[pinkwool]

Hopefully the Thompson Cohos will be late as well 

[allwaysfishin]

that's one of the things no one has mentioned till now. In a typical year we would be shut down for sox by the around the 21st of August due to arriving thompson coho. 

[DragonSpeed]

We've all been sitting quietly with our fingers crossed hoping it's not going to happen, but if it does I understand that I will not be able to fish sox this year.  Such is nature.

[Gooey]

EVERYTHING has been late...I dont think thompson coho will be early or on time when everything else has been so late.

[fisher88]

one question.. what causees the salmon to be late?? is the higher ocean temps. causing them to move and feed further north. then by the time they make there way down to us does it take longer to make the trip?? just curious,

[allwaysfishin]

Fishery Notice
 
Category(s):  ABORIGINAL - General Information
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Gill Net
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Seine
COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Troll
RECREATIONAL - Salmon
 
Subject:  FN0558-Salmon: Fraser River Sockeye Update - August 9 - Areas 11 to 29 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
The Fraser River Panel met today, August 9th to review assessment data on
Fraser River sockeye salmon. The abundance of returning Summer Run Fraser
sockeye continues to be substantially lower than expected for this time period.
Based upon pre-season expectations the maximum daily Fraser River Summer run
sockeye migration was forecasted to occur through the marine assessment areas
around August 8th.  However, the daily migrations of Fraser River sockeye
continue to track far below expectations through both Juan de Fuca and
Johnstone Straits.  It is possible that the timing of the Summer run stock
group is late, however, the continued apparent weakness to Summer Run to date
is causing concern that the return will be substantially less than forecast
levels.
   
Migration conditions for sockeye in the Fraser River continue to be favourable.
Discharge levels in the Fraser River (at Hope) measured August 9th is 3,200
cms, which is slightly below average levels of 3,400 cms. A water temperature
at Qualark Creek is 18.6 degrees Celsius and is forecasted to increase to about
19.3 degrees Celsius by Aug. 11 before dropping down to 18.6 degrees Celsius by
Aug. 18. 

   
First Nations
It is expected that First Nations targeting Fraser River sockeye fisheries in
Area 29 and the Fraser River will continue this week, an update will be
provided on Friday August 12th following the next Fraser River Panel meeting.

Recreational
Sockeye retention remains closed in the Fraser River.  Opportunities for the
commencement of Fraser River sockeye retention will be reviewed and an update
will be provided on Friday August 12th.

Commercial
Remains closed.  Opportunities for the commencement of any assessment or
commercial fisheries will be reviewed and an update will be provided on Friday
August 12th.

The next update will be Friday PM, August 12th following the next Fraser River
Panel meeting.
   
FOR MORE INFORMATION:
Contact Paul Ryall at (604)666-0115
           

 
 
 

[pinkwool]

looks like forecasting of sockeye returns is getting as popular as weather forecasting. They can't predict the weather here in one day ahead, so we should not blame DFO for not keeping up with their predictions from June and, I think, they should stop predicting so less people get confused/disappointed.

[Rodney]

Just received an email with some numbers etc after tonight's sockeye conference call.

The fishery is looking so bad that even some test fisheries have been curtailed.

At present 3 models were put forward and only one model would allow us to fish at anytime on summers this year. That model would see 7.9 million fish but the likely number is estimated to be around 2 to 2.5 million the way it now looks.  DFO needs a 4.5 million run size of summers for us to fish.

The next conference call is scheduled for Tuesday night so you will not be fishing on Sockeye or Pinks until at least then.