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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #75 on: August 28, 2005, 11:40:46 AM »

A no kill fishery tells DFO and the public that we intend to achieve conservation of the stocks, but we are angry about that the entire annual harvest being allocated to the First Nation fishery.

The protests held last year met their objectives, that was to finally grab the minister's attention. Meetings were held, an enquiry was held, as a result DFO enforcement has been increased on the Fraser River.

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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #76 on: August 28, 2005, 03:21:39 PM »

count me in we all got to stick together on this even if it is a no kill protest :'( :'(
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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #77 on: August 28, 2005, 06:03:57 PM »

I'm sorry Rod, but what exactly was accomplished from last year?  All I can see is it is getting worse, not better. With all the won court battles and the media coverage and fellow anglers talking to anyone and everyone. Still nothing. Im not asking for an opening for soxs, just an explanation why WE cant kill, and the government/FN are killing complete runs........ Maybe everyone should know how many soxs made there way to cultas this year. I heard that DFO was expecting 26 fish. I wonder how many of those were caught in the ocean by the governments boats and how many were caught by FN nets.... hmm

I was talking with a friend the other day ( he used to sit on the salmon board) He reminded me all the government is interested in is sucking the Fraser dry...... You will all see just what I am talking about within 10 years. Only we will be too late to do anything about it.      The runs are getting smaller due to over fishing by both the government and FN. There are NO other reasons or scientific explanations. I have not seen any fish floating down the river due to high water temps or parasites in the last couple of years, with the exception of large sturgeon dead due to unknown reasons (most likely polution).

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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #78 on: August 29, 2005, 12:07:19 AM »

Comparing to last year's fishery, this year is a lot worse?

What has been achieved in 2005, since last year's protest:

  • Establishing an open dialogue with the Fraser Valley First Nations by holding several meetings.
  • Bringing media attention to the illegal nettings that are being conducted during closures.
  • Being informed by DFO enforcement on a regular basis regarding seizing of nets and charging violators.

I say DFO has done a lot more this year to make improvement, but there's still room for more.

On a related note, please click here for a SDA letter to the minister regarding the Fraser River sockeye fishery mismanagement.

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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #79 on: August 29, 2005, 01:11:11 AM »

Interesting and strongly worded letter by the SDA. Were the escapement figures that Bill mentions set at the beginnig of the season or are they the result of the late timing of the runs and the desire to protect endangered runs? if it is the former, it boggles the mind why this would be changed given the consistent run strength over the last ten cycles.
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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #80 on: August 29, 2005, 08:23:37 AM »

Rod, I respect your thoughts and opinions regarding many issues.  But I fail to see the impact a protest can have without the harvesting of some fish. 

Should there be one person (like last year) that harvests a fish?  They will just throw the ticket away and sweep it under the rug.  Yes last years protest did have some positive effects (I personally feel enforcement is up this year) but if they throw the ticket away again thus keeping it out of the courts and media then IMHO that only reduces the possible effectiveness of a protest. 

They could not ignore 50 fishermen harvesting a soc or 2 and I doubt they could justify throwing away 50 tickets.

If a protest does happen, I dont want to go out and do C&R on socs, I can't afford a ticket, so would my pressence there (to show solodarity) add strengthtot he cause?  What do you suggest?
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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2005, 08:40:14 AM »

you dont have to bonk a sox just attending the protest and showing your support is a good idea i understand your frustration as im just as peed off as all the others but if we all acted like the natives do then the whole salmon species will be lost. its up to the sportsman to protect what we have left . and maybe one day the dfo and the natives will pull their heads out of the sand and wake up. ;D ;D
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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #82 on: August 30, 2005, 02:19:24 AM »

Yes, I strongly support a protest fishery.  This government is so screwed with their racial based allocation.  All their talk about sporties or commies endangering rare late runs is just garbage unless they shut down FN fishery still shamelessly allowed to go on with drift nets weeks after weeks, uncounted and unmonitored, and after 600,000 fish.  They will do anything to appease FN to avoid public embarrassment by making all their fishings legal. Shame on them to tell us they worry about this stock or that stock.  Just empty words in face of the huge numbers of fish harvested by FN daily (oh ya, by government test fisheries too, and who gets those fish?).  They don't have the gut to tell people the truth - DFO is scared to death about FN, period. Well, let's make all Liberal MPs pay in next election, so then we will see which group holds the voting power.
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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #83 on: August 30, 2005, 08:35:30 AM »

Perhaps a protest in the order of blockading something for the day?......like the Fraser river docks or the First Narrows with sport boats..... that sure would get the feds attention...and national media exposure too. And no sockeye need perish.
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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #84 on: August 30, 2005, 10:45:24 AM »

Perhaps a protest in the order of blockading something for the day?......like the Fraser river docks or the First Narrows with sport boats..... that sure would get the feds attention...and national media exposure too. And no sockeye need perish.

BINGO ! SHUT THE FRASER DOWN FOR A WHILE ... GOOD MEDIA ATTENTION AND  ZERO FISH KILLED !

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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #85 on: August 30, 2005, 12:40:43 PM »

as a part time employee of the local waterfront (surrey docks and delta port) you will not win any favors from those that are employed there by blockading there place of employment over a fisheries issue. There are literally hundreds of those employees who are sportfishers.... I fail to see the reasoning behind even bring that one up.
however blockading a "meaningfull" location may produce some result.
problem is no group is heading the call for sportfisher activism. the sit tight and wait and see, sheeplike mentality seems to be winning the day.
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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #86 on: August 30, 2005, 12:52:53 PM »

 ;D i agree but not the docks or somewhere that people are working  try blocking the area where fns are fishing ;D ;D ;D ;D we also need media attention thats for sure the public only sees that the fns are always getting the bum deal. what about us guys who put alot of money into the economy buying tackle and rods and not to mention the licencense that seems to get pricier each year.
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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #87 on: August 30, 2005, 01:47:02 PM »

Yes blockade entrance into FN reserve. So they can't get out. But it is legal?
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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #88 on: August 30, 2005, 01:49:01 PM »

 ::) do the fns worry about what is legal
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Re: protest fishery
« Reply #89 on: August 30, 2005, 02:53:28 PM »

what about setting up a bunch of boats at anchor in the drift net lanes?  Maybe drop some spin n glos for springs to make it a little less obvious...maybe not!
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