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CN Rail and Cheakamus River
« on: January 16, 2006, 09:53:09 AM »

The Cheakamus Ecosystem Recovery Technical Committee (CERTC) is holding a public Open House to inform the public on what actions have been taken by government following the August 5th derailment of 41,000 litres of Caustic Soda into the Cheakamus River. This will be an opportunity to not only meet the representatives of the CERTC but to let them know your issues and concerns and learn about the efforts that have been initiated. Furthermore, there will be an opportunity to sign up to participate in a Stakeholder process  for the public to formerly dialogue with the CERTC to provide input and recommendations.
 
Details are as follows:
 
Date: Wednesday, February 8th
Time: 4:30 - 8:30 p.m.
Location: Squamish Adventure Centre
 
For all of you who are part of other organizations please forward this e-mail invitation to your respective group memebers as well as any interested parties.
 
Please don't hesitate to contact me for additional informaiton. A dedicated website will soon be established and will be identified at the Open House.
 
Edith B. Tobe
Project Manager
Squamish River Watershed Society
Box 1791, Squamish, B.C., V0N 3G0
e-mail: tobe@shaw.ca
604.898.9171; fax 898.9161
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Re: Upcoming Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2006, 01:39:43 AM »

bkk (MTBIKER) posted this on FishBC:

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Some new developements since this notice came out. It seems on Friday, Edith Tobe and the Squamish Watershed Society were fired from organizing this meeting. They were originally hired to gather all of the comments from the public and then summarize and submit to the committee. They were also required to pass any info from the committee back to the public. Evidently CN did not like the fact that the meeting was announced before they were ready to release info to the public. That and the fact that the Watershed Society was accused of having a bias against CN by stateing facts about the "alleged" fish kill on the Cheakamus. What appears to be happening is that CN wants to control the whole process and limit their liabilities ( no surprise there ).

If pople don't go to this meeting and raise hell, then CN is going to do as little as they can to fix the Cheakamus. They will study but not actually do anything to recovery the fish stocks. This appears to be the plan. Let's remember that this was the largest fish kill in BC history ( short of the Hells Gate slide in 1913? ), certainly the largest chemical kill and they have to be responsible. Let's show up at the meeting and voice our concerns.

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Re: Upcoming Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2006, 03:39:58 PM »

Article from todays Sun. 

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=131bb0e1-83d2-465d-aaff-9d3bc8d78784&k=54535

It doesn't sound good for the Cheakamus.  CN is trying to get off cheap.
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Re: Upcoming Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2006, 05:38:23 PM »

Squamish Watershed Recovery Backgrounder

Pacific Salmon Foundation
Pacific Salmon Foundation (PSF) is an independent, non-profit organization and a national leader in the conservation and recovery of Pacific salmon. Formed in 1987, PSF directs funding to grassroots, volunteer-driven projects specifically focused on the conservation and recovery of Pacific salmon. Beginning in 2006, PSF is leading efforts to restore and conserve the Fraser River watershed, the largest watershed in BC and home to the world’s largest runs of wild Pacific Salmon. PSF forges partnerships with local communities, First Nations, all levels of government, private companies, educational institutions, commercial and recreational fisheries and other non-profit organizations all working together to restore and enhance Pacific salmon.

PSF Strategic Salmon Recovery Program

PSF’s Strategic Salmon Recovery Program has seven ongoing recovery plans in three priority areas: the Thompson Basin, Georgia Basin and Rivers and Smith Inlets. Watershed Plans are developed and implemented by Local Recovery Teams that include significant involvement of technical staff and expertise from Fisheries and Oceans Canada, BC Ministry of the Environment, academia, and private professionals. Since 2001, a total of $2,716,439 has been invested by the Pacific Salmon Endowment Fund and PSF into the seven recovery plans.

Squamish River Watershed Society

The Squamish River Watershed Society (SRWS) consists of a wide representative group of people who reside or have interests within the geographical area represented by the Squamish River. First established in 1993, the SRWA was formed in order to act as lead proponent for projects within the Squamish watershed. The Watershed Society works on restoration based projects, land use decisions and facilitating change while striving for watershed management that will lead to responsible and healthy decisions towards the use of our water, air, and resources. Edith Tobe, RPBio, is the Project Coordinator for the Squamish River Watershed Recovery Plan.
The Squamish Watershed

The Squamish River watershed is a complex ecosystem that encompasses approximately 3,650 km2. It is the largest watershed within the Straight of Georgia and entirely within the traditional territory of the Squamish First Nation. The area is vital habitat for fish species, marine and terrestrial mammals and birds, invertebrates and all six species of Pacific salmon, including steelhead. The Stawamus River watershed comprises 40.6 km2 of mountainous terrain immediately east-southeast of the District of Squamish, and southeast of Valleycliffe. The lower reach passes through Stawamus IR #24, and flows under Highway 99 and the BC Railway. The Cheakamus River, one of the major tributaries to the Squamish River, is located on the east side of the Squamish River occurring about 15 km upstream of the Squamish estuary. The Town of Squamish lies within the Squamish River watershed and supports a growing population of approximately 15,000 people.

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Re: Upcoming Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2006, 05:40:41 PM »

A reminder of what happened.



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Re: Upcoming Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2006, 05:54:53 PM »

I find it very interesting that the PSF has stated that $1.250 million is ok?

Something smells here!
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Re: Upcoming Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2006, 06:07:30 PM »

A reminder of what happened.





A mere glimpse of the estimated 500 000 killed   :(
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Re: Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River on FEBRUARY 8TH!
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2006, 11:56:50 PM »

They said up to 50 years to recover. That's worse than logging the valley and mining the riverbed for gold. Some chemicals can really clean a place out. They (CN) should have to raise the fish from above the spill into a brood stock for the lower river at the minimum. Pay for the infrastructure to do it.
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another SLICE of dirty fish perhaps?

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Re: Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River on FEBRUARY 8TH!
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2006, 12:27:11 PM »

http://www.cknw.com/news/news_local.cfm?cat=7428109912&rem=30037&red=80110923aPBIny&wids=410&gi=1&gm=news_local.cfm

In spite of the recent payment, CN Rail not off the hook yet
Feb, 08 2006 - 3:30 AM


SQUAMISH/CKNW(AM980) - B-C's Environment Minister is downplaying reports it may take 50 years for the Cheakamus Canyon to recover from last summer's CN Rail spill.
Barry Penner says a draft report that will be presented at an open house in Squamish today says the recovery may take 11 to 50 years, 50 years at the outside, "But, anyway you slice it that's a pretty significant recovery time whether it's 11 years or 50 years, so we want to make sure that we do the planning right so that when the recovery takes place it's a full recovery."

Penner says in any case, CN will be on the hook for all the damages and may still face charges, "It's still very possible that they may be ultimately charged and brought to court and face significant penalties, financial penalties, in the courts."

But the Minister stresses that investigation is not complete.

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Re: Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River on FEBRUARY 8TH!
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2006, 09:38:45 PM »

This makes me soooo angry!  a peasly million and change?  What kind of message does that send.  Even if they had to pay $10 a head for the fish that were killed (hmmm....why does that amount sound familiar  ;) )  That would be at least 5 million....not to mention the offspring that is no more!  I hope that they are held accountable for the damage caused!
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Re: Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River on FEBRUARY 8TH!
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2006, 11:23:24 PM »

http://www.cknw.com/news/news_local.cfm?cat=7428109912&rem=30149&red=80110923aPBIny&wids=410&gi=1&gm=news_local.cfm

Magnitude of CN Cheakamus spill still not realized by many
Feb, 09 2006 - 12:40 AM


SQUAMISH/CKNW(AM980) - Those living along the Cheakamus River were invited to an open house last evening, for an update on last year's CN train derailment and toxic spill.

Among other things, they learned The Cheakamus Ecosystem Restoration Technical Committee is still evaluating the impacts of the toxic spill before implementing recovery programs.
We do know the number of dead fish, a number that's staggering to Brian Clark, Regional Manager with the Ministry of Environment, "We're estimating over 500-thousand, but to me that number isn't as significant as the 90 per cent, because it depends on how big the river is, with 500-thousand. But 90 per cent of everything in the river, that's the one that shocks me."

Steelhead were worst impacted, and Dennis Louis with the Squamish First Nation says the spill couldn't have come at a worse time, "This was one of the better years they had since the early 1970s, the steelhead that were caught and counted over 3 to 400 steelhead were caught prior to this."

The Ministry says it will take 25 to 40 years to restore the steelhead population.

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Re: Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River on FEBRUARY 8TH!
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2006, 09:40:37 AM »

http://www.squamishchief.com/madison/WQuestion.nsf/0/8BA135D3D065337C8825711000834956?OpenDocument

What's going on?
   
So, what’s happening? That was the question on many people’s lips and on many people’s minds at the Open House Wednesday (Feb. 8) at the Adventure Centre dealing with the CN/Cheakamus spill.
Six months after the notorious spilling of caustic soda into the river due to a train derailment, and the killing of nearly every fish in the Cheakamus, many in town were anxious for answers and even more anxious for action.

But neither seemed to be forthcoming at the open house.

Instead of a presentation to the public, those who attended the event were treated to a casual, almost cocktail party atmosphere, and placards detailing the timeline of the accident and what has been done since.

While it was informative to see the timelines in pretty graphics, it was information most who attended knew all too well. Similarly, it was fascinating, if not a tad horrific, to read about how many fish died, and which particular species were most affected, but again, most people interested in the subject of the spill already knew most of the fish were killed when the spill happened.

Walking along and looking at the presentations hanging on the wall, it was interesting to note that six months later, we’re still pretty much where we were a few days after the spill. We know it happened, and we know it messed up the Cheakamus pretty badly.

But what is most important to area residents is the plan to fix things.

While the placards detailing what happened to which fish species were frank, sure of the facts and informative, the posters which talked about remediation were more about “considerations” and what may happen.

So what’s going to happen now? More meetings, apparently.

At Wednesday’s open house, the technical group that has been working on analyzing the effects of the spill, asked local stakeholders to sign up for later meetings to discuss what needs to be done and to lend a hand.

I don’t think people want more meetings. The Squamish River Watershed Society (a pretty important stakeholder group, wouldn’t you say?) had been invited initially to help in organizing things with the technical group, but was unceremoniously dumped by CN for unclear reasons.

That doesn’t bode well for others who want to join the process. Some saw the sign-up sheet and mumbled that it was all lip service.

Granted, to do the job right, there does have to be a clear plan in place, and the will to carry it out quickly.

But half a year later, people are as heated and incensed as ever about the spill.

They don’t want meetings or considerations – they want action. They want to see some sleeves rolled up and someone to say “It’s going to be okay, we can fix this.”

But a leaked report says it will be “generations” before the Cheakamus is back to what it was pre-spill.

In the meantime, we can expect more meetings, more anxiety and further demonization of CN. Unfortunately, those are the real facts.

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Re: Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River on FEBRUARY 8TH!
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2006, 11:35:19 AM »

Squamish Salmon Recovery Plan Funding Opportunity
Posted on February 10th, 2006 by Edith Tobe, Squamish River Watershed Society

As many of you are aware, the Squamish River Watershed Society has been working with the Pacific Salmon Foundation since 2001 to develop a Salmon Recovery Plan. Through Golder Associates, and with funding from the Pacific Salmon Endowment Fund Society, the Squamish Salmon Recovery Plan was completed by Golder Associates in May 2005. Through the PSEF, the PSF was able to provide some seed funding in 2005 towards some restoration and project activities identified in the Recovery Plan that were developed at a workshop held in November 2004.

At this time we are inviting the public to come and participate in a half day workshop on February 25th to discuss the priorities identified in the Salmon Recovery Plan and to find out how to apply for this years project funding. Once again PSF is directing funding in the amount of $225,000 that was generously provided by CN Rail. Details of the application process as well as the types of projects that will be funded will be discussed during the February 25th workshop.

We encourage all those who are interested in learning more about this funding opportunity and about the Squamish Salmon Recovery Plan to attend but space is limited so it will be first come first serve. The workshop is free and lunch will be provided but registration is required. Please either fill out the registration form or respond to us by email if you are interested in this workshop.

Workshop Details:
Saturday, February 25th, 2006
10:00 - 2:00 pm
Squamish Municipal Hall Council Chambers
37955 Second Avenue.

Edith B. Tobe, Project Manager
Squamish River Watershed Society
Box 1791, Squamish, B.C., V0N 3G0
e-mail: tobe@shaw.ca
604.898.9171; fax 898.9161

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Re: Open House regarding CN Rail and Cheakamus River on FEBRUARY 8TH!
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2006, 01:16:53 AM »

Zeidler seeks action on Cheakamus recovery

Council passed a resolution to contact officials with the District of Squamish about the potential for the two communities to join in lobbying the provincial government for aggressive action to restore the Cheakamus River ecosystem damaged by last summer’s CN Rail chemical spill.

Councillor Eckhard Zeidler, a staunch environmentalist, said the spill of caustic soda into the Cheakamus last August is the sort of incident that sparks cleanup efforts costing in the hundreds of millions of dollars in some jurisdictions.

He said a concerted effort is needed on the part of CN and senior levels of government in this instance as well.

“I can’t help but have the feeling that we aren’t doing enough here,” Zeidler said. “If this issue isn’t resolved, the second largest eagle gathering in the world may be no more.”

Zeidler’s motion, which was adopted unanimously, directs staff to speak to District of Squamish officials about what the DOS is doing and report back to Council, with an eye toward helping in those efforts.

Councillor Ralph Forsyth noted that in addition to the environmental tragedy, the spill is an economic tragedy as well, affecting tourism up and down the Sea to Sky corridor.

http://www.whistlerquestion.com/madison/WQuestion.nsf/0/C203CFE6DA5A61448825711E000550FA?OpenDocument