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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: TheLostSockeye on July 30, 2014, 04:41:35 PM
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Went to pegleg today and was horrified by what I found. Around 7 sockeye heads laying beside the shore. I would say im suprised but i have seen stuff like this before and am disgusted by it. They are probably still down there if anyone wants to go see for themselves. I have not reported this as i assume someone else probably has. And for everyone wondering there is still a very strong flow there and there is no way the bar is going to be accessible soon. Maybe by the end of august.
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I realize that this should probably go into the issues forum but i figured it would get more attention here.
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Wow, :o
How was the bar looking?
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Why would they not keep the heads? If they think CO will miss identify the fish as jack spring without the heads, they will be silly indeed.
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Nothing is surprising anymore!
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Never assume violations have been reported, always phone them in.
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There is FN sockeye opening.
Total catch to date on record is 16707 sockeyes
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Whatever happened to keeping the head on your catch during transport.
First Nations or not, leaving salmon heads on the beach is not acceptable.
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I ran into the same scenario on the Chekamus River where these guys were hacking of the heads of Chum they caught . I confronted them about it and tried to tell them you are not to do that until you get them home , they just started yelling in there European tongue and just left them there without a care in the world . >:( . I think we will see distubing things like this going on and on till the day we some how find a way to fund more officers to bust these ignoramus's .
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I ran into the same scenario on the Chekamus River where these guys were hacking of the heads of Chum they caught . I confronted them about it and tried to tell them you are not to do that until you get them home , they just started yelling in there European tongue and just left them there without a care in the world . >:( . I think we will see distubing things like this going on and on till the day we some how find a way to fund more officers to bust these ignoramus's .
Not to knit pick and I should confirm my recollection from regs but I believe head can be cut off as long as tail remains for identification if the fish only has a minimum size and the length is not shorter than the minimum with head cut off , exception is hatchery fish that have a tag in the head for tracking.. That being said I know until recently the chinooks also have a maximum length and personally I just leave the heads on.. If I'm mistaken please feel free to correct and please be nice 😉
Edit - It was bothering me so: http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/points/packaging-emballage-eng.html (http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/points/packaging-emballage-eng.html)
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Maybe it was results of First Nations fishing.
They are the only ones allowed right now so why assume it was some dastardly deed.
Me and a buddy made much the same conclusion one year on a local river to the point we were looking for the person who was filleting fish right on the river.
Then we found out that someone had went down and dumped some fillet carcasses in the river after cleaning and filleting there catch at home.
Oh and we were sure we were onto some poacher foresure.lol
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Tenz, I think you are right. Nobody need to keep a fish with the head if there is no problem with it identification or no size limit.
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Tenz, I think you are right. Nobody need to keep a fish with the head if there is no problem with it identification or no size limit.
"Leave the head, tail and all fins on your catch
until you get them to your permanent (ordinary)
residence. We suggest you immediately remove
the gills and internal organs of any fish you keep
to reduce spoilage"
Out of the freshwater regs, I know its not tidal, however I would expect that the people who want under 16's to have a paper document would be similar.
Besides its always a good practice to do the little things, even if its not necessary then. If you don't then you might not do them when it is, and get nailed.
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Is Peg accessible on foot without wading? How much has it changed from last year?
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"Leave the head, tail and all fins on your catch
until you get them to your permanent (ordinary)
residence. We suggest you immediately remove
the gills and internal organs of any fish you keep
to reduce spoilage"
Out of the freshwater regs, I know its not tidal, however I would expect that the people who want under 16's to have a paper document would be similar.
Besides its always a good practice to do the little things, even if its not necessary then. If you don't then you might not do them when it is, and get nailed.
Thanks for the clarification Clarkii,
Link:http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/regulations/#Transporting (http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/fish/regulations/#Transporting)
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The Freshwater Regulations on a top of section "WRAP IT WRIGHT" say about "Restrictions on cleaning and canning your catch in non-tidal water (for all species except salmon)".
Moreover, Freshwater Salmon Supplement (for hatchery coho and chinook) says to remove the head and submit it to a Salmon Head Recovery Depot.
It doesn't say to keep the head until you get to your residence.
To be more specific, in my first reply I didn't mean all spices of fish, just salmon.
To identify chum salmon there are enough characteristics without the head:
- white tip on the anal fin;
- silvery sides and faint grid-like bars;
- the slightly forked tail has silver streaks covering about half of the fin;
- the tail base is slender then one of sockeye...
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I missed the execpt salmon part in freshwater.
I found this though from dfo.
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/points/packaging-emballage-eng.htm
Packaging your Salmon
Chinook, Coho, Pink, Chum, & Sockeye
When packaging your catch, if a maximum size limit applies, the head and tail must remain attached until you prepare and consume your catch, arrive at your ordinary residence, or deliver your catch to a registered processing facility.
The head of your salmon can be removed only if the length with the head off is equal to or greater than the minimum legal size of that species for the waters in which it was caught. Leave the tail attached so species can be determined. For example, if a Chinook salmon is caught where the minimum size limit is 62 cm and it is filleted and packaged for transport, one of the fillets must have the tail attached and be at least 62 cm long.
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So it sounds like you can pretty much remove head most of the salmon you catch in fresh water, except for jacks and adult chinook, since the size of head may make a difference in determining the minimum/maximum size.
The head of your salmon can be removed only if the length with the head off is equal to or greater than the minimum legal size of that species for the waters in which it was caught. Leave the tail attached so species can be determined. For example, if a Chinook salmon is caught where the minimum size limit is 62 cm and it is filleted and packaged for transport, one of the fillets must have the tail attached and be at least 62 cm long.
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Thanks clarkii for one more clarification. Though it is opposite to your first one, I like it better. Nobody needs to keep a fish with the head if there is no problem with it identification or no size limit.
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This is not about the heads. ;D
I went to Peg yesterday to check out the bar. It seems the river in front of the bar has become deeper. Very tough to get a bounce unless you are tossing 5oz or 6oz. Slow fishing with not too many springs hooked, not even sockeyes. Not very encouraging.
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This is not about the heads. ;D
I went to Peg yesterday to check out the bar. It seems the river in front of the bar has become deeper. Very tough to get a bounce unless you are tossing 5oz or 6oz. Slow fishing with not too many springs hooked, not even sockeyes. Not very encouraging.
yeah i know what you mean! There are also a lot of snags out there aswell. Didn't catch anything in 7 hours of fishing.
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This is not about the heads. ;D
I went to Peg yesterday to check out the bar. It seems the river in front of the bar has become deeper. Very tough to get a bounce unless you are tossing 5oz or 6oz. Slow fishing with not too many springs hooked, not even sockeyes. Not very encouraging.
I spoke to 1 bar fisherman last week. He needed 18 oz to keep his line in place