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Re: Langara Fishing Lodge
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2010, 09:30:42 PM »

What you need to invest in is a guided trip...especially if your saltwater experience is limited and you've never been there. If you can upgrade to a larger blue boat, do it. It's WORTH THE MONEY and trust me, you'll thank me for this in terms of fish played, comfort, etc. If you can afford to go on this trip, then you can afford the guide.  If you go fishing for Halis (when is more like it depending on the time of year), you'll appreciate a larger boat as well. Also, you'll find that the guides outfish the "unguided" boats by a large margin--I know this to be true.  Here's the way to look at it, you won't try to fly a plane if you've never been in one before would you? Same thing applies. If you do take my recommendation to go for a guide,  get a full time senior guide if at all possible and not someone who works on the dock.

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Re: Langara Fishing Lodge
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2010, 10:39:31 PM »

It's amazing the amount of input I'm getting.  I'm not paying for A guide because I'm not rich.  I can barely afford a trip like this.   What I can say is that all the info that everyone has shared with me on this post I will use as best I can, and fish my my friend off.   I'll let you guys know how I do.

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Re: Langara Fishing Lodge
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2010, 09:07:22 AM »

Hi there,

I go up to Langara 2-3 times a year. This year I'm starting early--next Tuesday. This being the beginning of June there aren't going to be any Coho around big enough to be interested in a cut plug--or at least that's my experience.  They are still busy munching those little shrimp-like beasties that at times swarm the waters there in June. Anyone ever  had any luck attracting those small Coho by dragging a red or chartreuse salmon/steelhead fly/jig?

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Re: Langara Fishing Lodge
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2010, 09:19:00 AM »

Driller,

Best of luck.  You are getting really good advice here.

As you seem a little excited and compulsive, let me add a little more advice:

1. Trust the dock staff.  They really want you to succeed.

2. Start simple. Having been there many, many, times, we fish four rods most of the time.  If you are new to this, fish one rod per person initially.

3. Go to safe and/or populated places.  Try Bruin Bay on the flood tide--it is within sight of the Lodge. Spend a lot of time working Coho to Andrews Point. Don't rush from point to point just because others do.  Stay away from wind exposed places if you can, because along with the current the wind will challenge your boat management skills when you are learning how to mooch.  The results of doing otherwise sometimes are not pretty.

4. Stay away from the West side of the island if it is open.  The next stop is Japan.

5. Dress warmly.  Although you will have a good padded survival suit, expect 11-12 C weather and you can still get really, really cold if you don't watch it.

6. Think about having a mid day nap (1/2-1 hour) if the fishing is slow.  Sunrise is at 5:30 am and they probably will allow you out until 9:00 PM or so.  You can get a lot of fishing in, even with a restorative nap.

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Re: Langara Fishing Lodge
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2010, 01:15:51 PM »

1. Yes, trust the dock staff for safety. However, the dock staff aren't on the water catching the fish. Talk to the guides..even better. Fish around the guides....like not right close to them, but around them and watch what they're doing, how fast they move, etc. Chances are, if they're fishing there, there are fish to be caught and they're catching fish. If you're wondering how deep they got 'em you can watch how many pulls they put out.  Catching fish at Langara isn't rocket science, as a matter of fact it's downright easy provided you're doing the right things.
2.  Fish 3-4 rods and space them out on the boat with as much spread between them--change the angles. Fish from 10 to 45 pulls in the stretch of Coho Point. Obviously, you're going to be 100 feet of water at least if you're fishing 45 pulls so you're further off shore. Otherwise, most guides are probably no deeper then 35 pulls at Coho Pt. Coho Point has plenty of trolling from far into Egeria Bay right past the pin. Stay out of the "bass pit" at Andrew's Point.  If you get 2 consecutive fish at "20 pulls", then obviously fish a 2nd rod close to "20 pulls". Fish all rods with an 8 ounce weight (maybe a 10 on the deeper)--never mind the 4 to 6 Oz stuff.  and use a 6 to 9 foot leader.
3.  Bruin Bay isn't going to give you anywhere NEAR the quanity of fish that Coho Point will. Don't spend too long in Bruin unless you're catching fish pretty regularly. It's "early" for Bruin for quantity. Move with your trolling speed---these fish LIKE a good spinning cut plug, they're not lazy, they're fresh and full of fight. Take your boat out of gear every 30-45 seconds, let the lines drop to near vertical then put it back in gear. Find the bait!!! Cover some area though in your "power mooching", if the tide is pushing, and you can maintain your depths....move...you're POWER MOOCHING.
4. Lacy Island can offer some dynamite fishing this time of year. Go there only if it's calm and stay away from mid channel in the big rollers.  If there are some guide boats there, chances are, you'll know why. 
5. Bait, bait, bait..find the bait. Fish around or in the bait. If it's slow, fish around the bait!!!!!! Eventually some fish will show.
6. Cut your bait on the water--don't go leaving your cut bait in the brine... brine the night before. Ensure your bait has a good presentation.  Don't put your bait down unless it's doing what it is supposed to do. Check your cut plugs every 15 minutes if nothing is going on and watch your rod tips. If it didn't come back after a bump, then check it.  It's quick and easy to do.
7. Sharp Hooks and good leaders. Reuse leaders if they are fine. Ensure the hooks are sharp.

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Driller,

Best of luck.  You are getting really good advice here.

As you seem a little excited and compulsive, let me add a little more advice:

1. Trust the dock staff.  They really want you to succeed.

2. Start simple. Having been there many, many, times, we fish four rods most of the time.  If you are new to this, fish one rod per person initially.

3. Go to safe and/or populated places.  Try Bruin Bay on the flood tide--it is within sight of the Lodge. Spend a lot of time working Coho to Andrews Point. Don't rush from point to point just because others do.  Stay away from wind exposed places if you can, because along with the current the wind will challenge your boat management skills when you are learning how to mooch.  The results of doing otherwise sometimes are not pretty.

4. Stay away from the West side of the island if it is open.  The next stop is Japan.

5. Dress warmly.  Although you will have a good padded survival suit, expect 11-12 C weather and you can still get really, really cold if you don't watch it.

6. Think about having a mid day nap (1/2-1 hour) if the fishing is slow.  Sunrise is at 5:30 am and they probably will allow you out until 9:00 PM or so.  You can get a lot of fishing in, even with a restorative nap.

Norman
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Re: Langara Fishing Lodge
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2010, 10:27:32 PM »

Just got back today from the Haida Gwaii Derby, quite the trip, weather was good two out of the three days, typical, a 33 was winning the derby up until 14 minutes left where a 43 was taken at Bruin, felt bad for the poor guy, 14 minutes lost him 70,000 dollars. Biggest hali was caught out in front of the lodge at 160. Lots of feeders, 12 to 20 range, Boulder one hour before the ebb to half way through it produced fish, in tight, if not move off shore to the 200 mark and try 30 pulls. After half way through the ebb and theres not much happening move up to Mac or Andrews for the first push of the flood and after the change then fish the flood off the pin or little coho. Again nothing huge but its early in the season and you shouldn't have trouble finding fish. Weather permitting try lacy half way through the flood.
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Re: Langara Fishing Lodge
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2010, 02:13:59 PM »

That sounds crazy.  Imagine having the derby in your pocket until the very last hour?!  Not to mention the cash.  I've been eyeing the weather.  It's blowing like crazy up there.  Glad it was alright for you for at least 2 days.
Thanks for the advice as well.
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Re: Langara Fishing Lodge
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2010, 07:54:13 AM »

Got back Saturday from a Tuesday-Saturday trip.  Yes, it definitely was windy, but fishable.  Lodge types were far more cautious about keeping areas open than ever before (perhaps because they were the only lodge with boats on the water this early). For a while we could fish Bruin Bay and the Passage and that was it.  I gather that many Chinooks came in last Monday, but while we were there, up to Saturday morning, the salmon fishing was just dreadful. In contrast, for those who were into it, halibut and ling cod fishing were better than I have ever seen it.
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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2010, 05:36:39 PM »

Just got back from our trip.  We were able to fish around the entire island except for the first half day, and this morning.  I've never been there before, and holy smoke do they cater to you!  I was blown away by the service.  No details left untouched.  Boats were cleaned each time we came back, smiles.  Too much to list. 

The fishing was decent, but not outstanding.  We did pretty well.  Limited out on springs, a few double headers, one halibut each both 20lbs.  Limited out on rockfish.  The largest spring we caught was 18.5 lbs.  We released a lot of them, hoping to get a larger one.  This morning the bite came on real intense at Andrews and we landed 6 or 7 springs. 

I'd love to head back, but I think next time it would be later in the season, to target Coho's.
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Re: Langara Fishing Lodge
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2010, 09:47:12 PM »

So thats it? I'm glad you had the chanceto have the Haida Gwaii experience, enjoy your barbeques this summer, just another adventure.
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Re: Langara Fishing Lodge
« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2010, 07:04:19 PM »

Well Done! For a self-professed newby, sounds like you did very well! It's not the expected things that make the trip; it's the surprises- like the amazing staff, and that time when...
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« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2010, 10:38:21 PM »

Exactly.  I was blown away by the experience.  Took me a couple of days to get my energy levels back to normal.  I have never fished so many hours in my life.  It was nice to have every single thing taken care of.  Coffee, snacks, thermos, mugs, sandwiches, sweets, drinks, bait, gas, boat cleaned, fish cleaned, meals prepared.  It allowed for a lot of time on the water.  My partner was as eager as I was, and we made the most of it.  We were always one of the first boats on the water, and we were the last boat on the water.  My partner has fished out of Prince Rupert a little bit over the past few years, and he claimed that the fishing was better in Rupert.  I reminded him of the extra cost of travel to Rupert, the processing of the fish and transport of it back to vancouver, the extra costs such as charter, meals, hotel, extra time off work to compensate for travel days etc.  If you calculate all of this I actually think going to Langara is equal, if not maybe even cheaper. 

I would highly recommend the trip to anyone.  Now it is time to focus on still water fishing.  My Dad arrives tomorrow, and we head to the Caribou for 4 or 5 days of trout stalking.
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