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alwaysfishn

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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2012, 09:26:41 AM »
I wasn't making any argument, Stillaqua.....  just providing a history lesson.  :D
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2012, 12:22:32 PM »
Anyone notice the lack of truth in this ad?

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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2012, 12:57:34 PM »
Quote from: alwaysfishn on January 05, 2012, 12:22:32 PM
Anyone notice the lack of truth in this ad?


Yeah, those are clearly sockeye filets...... ;) ;)
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2012, 01:54:00 PM »
"Farmed Raised" yet caught by wild people?
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2012, 04:23:38 PM »
whoops
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2012, 04:34:09 PM »
Quote from: StillAqua on January 05, 2012, 12:57:34 PM
Yeah, those are clearly sockeye filets...... ;) ;)

 ;D   Ya, I noticed that they seemed to be unusually red, but I just assumed that it was an Atlantic salmon had received an extra dose of canthaxanthin, Astaxanthin or Lutein before being caught....   ;D

Apparently the way you can tell the difference between farmed and wild salmon is by cooking it.....   ;)

"Salmon is tricky. Randolph does have one tip, though. Farmed salmon gets its coloring from dyes added to food pellets the fish are fed, while wild salmon gets it from the plankton they eat. "When you cook it, the wild salmon retains its color, and in the aquaculture salmon, the color tends to leak out," she says"       http://www.thefishsite.com/fishnews/8905/the-fraudulent-fish-of-america
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2012, 04:35:57 PM »
Quote from: Easywater on January 05, 2012, 01:54:00 PM
"Farmed Raised" yet caught by wild people?

Those salmon farmers can be pretty wild.....  ;D
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2012, 10:59:22 PM »
They could have been farmed raised and wild caught, tens of thousands of Atlantics "leak" (unreported) from pens every year.
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2012, 07:55:20 AM »
Quote from: Sandman on January 05, 2012, 10:59:22 PM
They could have been farmed raised and wild caught, tens of thousands of Atlantics "leak" (unreported) from pens every year.

 ;D LOL

Actually I've heard that the voluntary reporting system they use is highly reliable because salmon farmers are very honest.  :D
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2012, 08:16:58 AM »
As we all know a photo of a product has little to do with how the product looks usually.

The problem here is with the grocery store not a fish farm.

Honestly :-*
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2012, 02:54:00 PM »
An interesting read on how the Scotish fish farm PR machine managed to convince the public that a scientific study on PCB's in farmed fish was suspect and should not be believed....  Probably the same thing is happening in North America.

On January 9 2004 Science, perhaps the most prestigious scientific journal in the world, published a study reporting that farmed salmon contained amounts of toxic chemicals known as Polychlorinated Biphenyls (PCBs) as well as other chemicals exceeding the recommended levels advised by the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).  According to the EPA, ‘Studies in humans provide supportive evidence for potential carcinogenic and non-carcinogenic effects of PCBs’.2

The following analysis is not simply about industry strategy or science communication.  It is not just a study of media coverage of salmon.  It is an account of how scientific research which does not fit the interests of industry can be neutralised.  It is a story that involves scientists, corporations, front groups, PR firms, ministers, civil servants and journalists.  It shows that the public get a dangerously distorted view of science from the media.  But this is relatively trivial compared with the main conclusion which is that vested interests operating together in a corporate/state two step are able to manage science and silence critics - even where these emanate from the most prestigious scientific journals in the world.  The interests of the industry prevailed in this case by means of misinformation, manipulation and subterfuge. The implication of this for theories of democracy and governance that emphasise popular consent is that consent is not always essential for the reproduction of power.

http://www.spinwatch.org/-articles-by-category-mainmenu-8/45-food-industry/4925-spinning-farmed-salmon-part-1-of-3
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2012, 05:01:04 PM »
Quote from: alwaysfishn on January 06, 2012, 07:55:20 AM
;D LOL

Actually I've heard that the voluntary reporting system they use is highly reliable because salmon farmers are very honest.  :D

Apparently they are only required to report large escape events (like a storm destroys a pen and all the salmon escape).  However, if net pen develops a hole and a few dozen fish escape before it is noticed, they do not need to report it.
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2012, 06:03:21 PM »
Quote from: Sandman on January 06, 2012, 05:01:04 PM
Apparently they are only required to report large escape events (like a storm destroys a pen and all the salmon escape).  However, if net pen develops a hole and a few dozen fish escape before it is noticed, they do not need to report it.

I guess for a salmon farmer that's the definition of honest...   :D
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2012, 12:47:59 PM »
a picture of sockeye fillets, advertising atlantic salmon which have been wild caught but farm raised...well, I guess the net pens are technically in the "wild", right? lol. Would love to send an email to the store manager hahah
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Re: 7 foods that should never cross your lips....
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2012, 12:30:18 AM »
Quote from: DavidD on January 01, 2012, 08:01:10 AM
Please don't tell me that beer (in moderation) is no longer any good for me.  ::)

Do what I do, whenever you drink beer - only drink German beer.  And I mean real German beer, imported from Germany.  They have a Purity Law over there, whereby breweries are not allowed to put anything in the beer besides Water, Hops, and Barley.  Also, they clearly state the ingredients on the can/bottle and have a clearly stamped expiry date.  This is quality beer, and surprisingly it can be and usually is CHEAPER than domestic beer.  

I just discovered all this a few months ago, after getting really annoyed with constantly getting headaches in 20 min after only 1 beer.  A lot of domestic beers use all kinds of Preservatives and Additives and even sweeteners - which are the main cause of hangovers.  These mass produced beers are made so cheaply that they can brew it with corn or rice as an adjunct to save costs.  That is like cutting a substance with an inferior product.  

With German beers, you'll notice that you won't feel bloated and tired after.  The hops act as a natural preservative.  That's why German beer have a shelf life of up to one year, where as domestic beers lose their quality after 3-6 months.  A lot of beers just drain your energy, almost immediately.  Corona beers are pure crap, and they're known to make people feel drowsy and tired, and cause headaches.  They're a total downer of a beer.  Usually the most marketed beers, are the crappiest.  Budweiser, for example, is actually one of the worst beers out there. 
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